Toravon nerfed.

[Shawaam]

I'm just sitting here shaking my head unable to believe it. We one-shot this boss with blue-geared people on 10-man.

What I am trying to say is: WHAT THE F*CK?

(If there is a thread about this already, I apologize. Have a nice evening and be sure to get those free epics from VoA!)

[Duulis]

I'm just sitting here shaking my head unable to believe it. We one-shot this boss with blue-geared people on 10-man.

What I am trying to say is: WHAT THE F*CK?

(If there is a thread about this already, I apologize. Have a nice evening and be sure to get those free epics from VoA!)

VoA is supposed to be free epics.

[BoxofRox]

I oneshotted it, the day it came out, on 10 and 25... Wtf Blizzard? Give them 251s/264s some worth eh?

[Gottalot]

Totally agree.

One shotted him in a 25man PuG. One wipe on 10man with a friends guild. All on the day of release.

Boost Toravon thats what got to say about it. Heck, emalon i still the hardest boss and hes
a joke now when everyone got an average Ilvl of 245.

[ardoRic]

why do they always nerf VoA bosses the week after they're released?

I agree that this particular one was a joke, and didn't warrant a nerf.

[Vetali]

They have to make it easy for the PvPers, didn't you know?

[Hegeh]

First pull on 25 man with a pug: Toravon dead in less than 2 minutes and no one dead.

[BoxofRox]

They have to make it easy for the PvPers, didn't you know?

Oh yeah, forgot all about that. Well then, as you were Blizzard.

[Deamoneyes]

Oh yeah, forgot all about that. Well then, as you were Blizzard.

i chuckled quite a bit, but oh well its the only reason i can see really...

[Sellest]

Do you want to do something challenging? Go try hardmodes. VoA is supposed to be easy and it is easy. No need to do stupid QQ topics about it.

[kiertokanki]

Yea, hardmodes are for ppl who want to do hard(er) stuff, so dont mind that nerf.(and all of us who play the hm:s knows that theres something else to play for than loot,maybe a challenge? =] )

Just think that its weird that they give the 25 man loot out so easy from Voa

Theres a lot more to do tho to get the 2 pieces of 25 man tier from ICC, collecting emblems goes pretty fast and getting Saurfang down is kind a easy (harder than Toravon tho), then comes the difference..to kill Putricide or Queen for example needs lot more effort and practice than run round Toravons room for 4 minutes

should be more balanced, maybe make 10man version of Voa to give some random items and 25 man could give 10man ICC tier

Anyways the game is changed gearwise so much since the old days, now everyone looks the same and has nice gear with little effort, so no point on whining bout anything gearwise if you continue playing.

But reading about Toravon nerf is indeed WTF =)

[Pokemaster]

I wiped two times on him in voa 10 with a guild, so the nerf could be good for bad players.

[Ilikeforums]

They have to make it easy for the PvPers, didn't you know?

Most pvpers are better than most pvers because they actually have to have some sort of an awareness in arena, not bgs or duels

JUST SAYING

- On a side note I mean > Good < people at arena and Sellest istehrite

[ComputerNerd]

What will make you wipe or faceroll him is the group you with.
First week and 10 man went relatively smoothly, not perfect but no wipe. 25 man was very different and after multiple wipes and myself amongst others pointing out repeatedly that the blue things are not your friends, you do not go hug them the point got through and we killed him.
Understanding of basic strategy is where players will fall over, unfortunatly from the mentality of facerolling the heroic farm day in day out.
If they cannot mass pull and aoe, or simply heal through some nasty aoe you are really meant to keep out of then they are lost.

[Wannabetank]

I saw thread name thought to myself ?? WTF went and looked and saw the nerf then again went ?? WTF i pugged it, copy pasted wowhead tactics into raid macro and on 1st try VoA10 AND VoA25 downed him. Then Nerfed? wheres my laser gun i need to QQ poped bloodlust and he was down withing 1minute 17seconds 25man and 57seconds 10man. Mind you all dps was over 7k and we used frost aura ignored adds both times.

[Thatwsntmilk]

Most pvpers are better than most pvers because they actually have to have some sort of an awareness in arena, not bgs or duels

Haha, good one.

Next you will say that winning in pvp depends more on skill than on gear/class/comp/color of you underwear/etc... ???

[Dalco]

Most pvpers are better than most pvers because they actually have to have some sort of an awareness in arena, not bgs or duels

Aren't you funny.

[ardoRic]

Do you want to do something challenging? Go try hardmodes. VoA is supposed to be easy and it is easy. No need to do stupid QQ topics about it.

Any easier than he was and we'd have a chest ready to be looted in the middle of the room. That's prolly what he equates to now.

I just want to get in VoA again to see tanks die to the trash's stacking dot

[fzhfzh]

How is it nerfed? I downed it in pug 20 man the first day it was released. If nerfed further, we probably would only need 17-18 now.

[Wannabetank]

You know what soon blizzard will add a "ebay" tab to website and say "tier 17 ONLY FIVE DOLLA" yes/no?