Relive the experience - why not?

[Deviss]

Yes, this is another PreTBC server QQ thread but it is a bit different then all others. Ok so, Blizzard already said that it will not open up Vanilla WoW server because they want to continue to expand WoW by new content blablabla and that it would be to hard to run servers with different game version at the same time (But the truth is Blizz could easily host servers with different versions of the game).

For me those two arguments are useless. I just dont get, why Blizzard does not want to open up PreTBC server when so many players want it. There are many players like me who started to play WoW in TBC/WoTLK. We were never able to experience the opening of Ahn'Qiraj doors, we were never able to slay Ragnaros and so on. But there are also players who do not want to play Vanilla WoW because they played it before or they are just not interested in playing on such server and they want to continue to play WoTLK and they have full right to do so. So why can't we find some kind of balance so everyone is happy?

Blizzard could host one server, ONLY ONE SERVER with PreTBC version of the game. How many servers are there in game? 250? All of them would remain the same and players could go play them as they used to. My idea for PreTBC server is, keep things that you added along new expansion packs like achievements but get rid of new instances (the ones added in TBC/WoTLK), items (also the ones that were added in TBC/WoTLK) and additional character levels (so maximum character level is 60 as it once was). Everything else could be kept the same way, if you think about it, it won't be that hard to prepare Vanilla WoW server for Blizzard.

After few months (or half of year, I dont know?) when most of players would complete all raids and instances Blizz could expand server with TBC content. And again after time most players would complete TBC content , WoTLK content could be released. Or of course server could be kept on PreTBC version, that depends on what majority of players would want.


FAQ

1. And what about talent trees?
Well, just keep them the same but get rid of part of the trees that were added in TBC/WoTLK. So for example, if you are retri pala on PreTBC server Repentance will be your final talent in Retribution tree and you wont be able to acess Crusader Strike, Divine Storm and so on.

2. What if noone will play on this "PreTBC" server?
Then Blizzard can close it. Please Blizz, give it a chance, you dont even realize how many players out there want to see how WoW looked before expansion packs were out. And what If server will get full and more players will play it then you expected? Then I don't see why you should'nt open up another PreTBC server.

3. Why Blizz should care? How can it benefit in any way from this?
There are hundreds if not thousands of players who play on private PreTBC servers because they hate WoTLK for different reasons. But as we all know, playing on retail and private server is like playing two different games. Private servers are very unstable and bugged and it's a lot less enjoyable then playing on retail. If there would be Pre TBC server on retail, most of those players would reactivate their WoW accounts and start to pay their subscription again.

4. On what version of client would PreTBC server run?
Does it really matter? I think it could be runned on 3.3.2/newest patch client but just with disabled additional content. Maybe it would be even better, because it may be hard for some players to downgrade their WoW client.


Feel free to post any of your opinions about PreTBC server. But please, if all you want to write is: "no, stop posting those QQ threads" then just dont.

[Leothelion]

It would be hard for Blizzard to do that. I want vanilla servers sure but in some ways they are losing money. New players dont have to buy TBC and WoTLK to play on a vanilla server. Plus not as many people would see the new WoTlk content. SO technically they would be "losing" time/money.

[Jamirelen]

I think the problem is that people will get bored easily. Sure people want vanilla servers now, but after a while, people can't be asked to keep playing a WoW without expanding endgame.

[wildrooster27]

The pre-tbc threads are lame.

If you want to go to MC go ahead, it is still in the freaking game.

God damn, all the old content is still there.

For fuck's sake.

[vesseblah]

4. On what version of client would PreTBC server run?
Does it really matter? I think it could be runned on 3.3.2/newest patch client but just with disabled additional content. Maybe it would be even better, because it may be hard for some players to downgrade their WoW client.

It's not preTBC server if it runs latest client with all bugfixes and patches and new spells and talents. It's just XP locked WLK which does not need dedicated servers.

If you really want PreTBC server (which you aren't getting btw) then have at least the balls to ask for one, and not a version with all the improvements an bugfixes that have been made in the game after vanilla.

[wildrooster27]

It's not preTBC server if it runs latest client with all bugfixes and patches and new spells and talents. It's just XP locked WLK which does not need dedicated servers.

If you really want PreTBC server (which you aren't getting btw) then have at least the balls to ask for one, and not a version with all the improvements an bugfixes that have been made in the game after vanilla.

100% agree... just like I said, just go the raids now... not hard. Still in the game.

[Deleted]

PreTBC would be to hard to modify a new server that works well with 40 man content and the events etc.

A preWotlk would bee possible, but even so Blizz would be admitting the new Xpack failed wich they will never do (atleast not directly). I am for such server but it simply would be against anything Blizz is standing for.

It's not preTBC server if it runs latest client with all bugfixes and patches and new spells and talents. It's just XP locked WLK which does not need dedicated servers.

If you really want PreTBC server (which you aren't getting btw) then have at least the balls to ask for one, and not a version with all the improvements an bugfixes that have been made in the game after vanilla.

That is what he is asking for you idiot...why ask for something that is already in the game. You have nerve making your post so capital when you even fail to understand the obvious OP.

[vesseblah]

That is what he is asking for you idiot...why ask for something that is already in the game. You have nerve making your post so capital when you even fail to understand the obvious OP.

Talk to a mirror when resorting to namecalling, or alternatively read the OP again.

He asked for a server that upgrades to TBC and later to WLK when people have progressed through shit and has latest client. Effectively just XP locked normal realm.

[Cuddleduck]

So what if all 11 mill (Right`?) players decides they want to make a character on that server. Don't you think it'll be up for 2 sec then down for 15 minutes? Like really, atleast think it through..

[Deleted]

It is a very good idea if your into that thing but how many people would actually be bothered doing it? being separated from everyone else

[CookieEater]

Talk to a mirror when resorting to namecalling, or alternatively read the OP again.

He asked for a server that upgrades to TBC and later to WLK when people have progressed through shit and has latest client. Effectively just XP locked normal realm.

Well, and he wants talent trees cut off.

[Deleted]

Well, and he wants talent trees cut off.

If he wants old ones: You don't want old ones.
If he wants new ones to be cut off: Just...do that manually?

[cubby]

Yes, this is another PreTBC server QQ thread but it is a bit different then all others. Ok so, Blizzard already said that it will not open up Vanilla WoW server because they want to continue to expand WoW by new content blablabla and that it would be to hard to run servers with different game version at the same time (But the truth is Blizz could easily host servers with different versions of the game).

And already an epic fail in the first paragraph. Can you guess where you screwed up? Care to take a gander at your post and tell me what your first (but not last, certainly biggest though) mistake was? You guessed it - you have NO IDEA how hard it would be for Blizz to run different versions of the game on different servers.

/end thread.

[Mascotte]

Vanilla was only fun because we didnt knew better back then.
Think of all the stuff that was added to wow, not just instances/spells/glyphs etc.
Then remove those.
Thats vanilla for you.

"All right, we only need 2 tanks for this boss, player x go and respec"
"Player x: Sigh, brb 10min, changing spec"

And thats just one example.

[Cirus]

Well that would be nice. I would love to go back to pre-bc pvp but that won't happen. My thinking on this is that if you want to have the full experience back then they have to change alot for it to go back. For one they have to get all the abilities and like you said before talents in the right places. The abilities part shouldn't be to hard though. Then they need to fix all the numbers etc. Back then there was SP and SP for healing. They'd have to put that back. Theres alot more stuff they'd have to change for it to be like that. Change the way you get experience, it was nearly impossible to level up back then. The list goes on and on.

[snovv]

Level cap ftw? pay 10 gold and you can stay 60,70 forever, just can't pvp(kinda sucks but understandable because of twinks and such).

[manniefaces]

Nothing stops you from shutting off xp and doing old raids now. There is a good reason they will not do it. I doubt there would eb enough of you to fill one realm much less more.

[Puffman]

I don't think most people really want Pre-TBC servers. Many people like to get misty eyed about this sort of thing but if it came down to it I don't think the uptake would be that high.

Exactly. Most of the people clamoring for a vanilla server would log on, realize they've made a terrible mistake, and flee to their home server.

Nostalgia is a bitch that way.

[cubby]

The biggest problem (amongst the many with these posts) is that a simple solution already exists - pay the 10g and prevent any more leveling when you hit 60 - BOOM - problem solved. Start a pre-bc guild and only raid Vanilla WoW. Except, these people want their special server to do their special things - never acknowledging that what they want to do (stay in the past) is already available to them.

What they really want to do is bitch and moan about how good it was in the old days and how great and happy we all were (which, of course, we weren't).

[Nexus2089]

FAQ

1. And what about talent trees?
Well, just keep them the same but get rid of part of the trees that were added in TBC/WoTLK. So for example, if you are retri pala on PreTBC server Repentance will be your final talent in Retribution tree and you wont be able to acess Crusader Strike, Divine Storm and so on.

Wow bro this makes me want to play so bad, i love only judging and auto attacking screw being useful in any way shape or form dps wise

Above comment aside you can get divine storm at lvl 60 so you should change that because it doesn't make anyone want to play on a pre TBC server