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    Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Is troll still the way to go or should I orc it up.
    Please also mention why I should pick one

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    If you have/will have heroic ICC 25 man gear, Troll is better. Until then go Orc, according to spreadsheets.
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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    I would so go troll if I was horde. Feel da voodoo mon.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    It would have helped if you said what class you were playing, just a little, its only a BIG difference.

    Shaman/any spec. - Orc
    Paladin - Durr, Blood Elf
    Hunters - Orc
    Mages - Troll
    Rogues - Orc/Troll/BE are all good choices, Orc will most likely fare a little better
    Priest healing - BE
    Priest DPS - Troll
    Warrior - Orc
    DK - Orc
    Warlock - Orc
    Druid - Durr, Tauren

    The Orcs Bloodfury spell which gives AP and SP, their expertise with axes/fists, and extra damage from pets will make it the superior race PvE wise for almost every dps class.

    Trolls only have the 20% haste cooldown for 10 seconds which isnt that attractive.

    This is all in terms of PvE
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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiikarii
    If you have/will have heroic ICC 25 man gear, Troll is better. Until then go Orc, according to spreadsheets.
    What kind of spreadsheets are you reading that generalize the entire games worth of classes into one race being better. Even in ICC 25 heroic gear orcs will be better than trolls for a lot of classes and specs. Don't give bad advice.
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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilgopher
    It would have helped if you said what class you were playing, just a little, its only a BIG difference.
    We're in the hunter forum...

    OT: Are you looking to PvE or PvP? There's a few differences there.

    PvE: Troll or Orc
    PvP: Orc or Tauren (maybe Belf if you run into a lot of spell cleaves)

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilgopher
    It would have helped if you said what class you were playing, just a little, its only a BIG difference.

    Shaman/any spec. - Orc
    Paladin - Durr, Blood Elf
    Hunters - Orc
    Mages - Troll
    Rogues - Orc/Troll/BE are all good choices, Orc will most likely fare a little better
    Priest healing - BE
    Priest DPS - Troll
    Warrior - Orc
    DK - Orc
    Warlock - Orc
    Druid - Durr, Tauren

    The Orcs Bloodfury spell which gives AP and SP, their expertise with axes/fists, and extra damage from pets will make it the superior race PvE wise for almost every dps class.

    Trolls only have the 20% haste cooldown for 10 seconds which isnt that attractive.

    This is all in terms of PvE
    Your information on shaman is incorrect. Blood Fury only gives spell DAMAGE, not bonus healing. Troll is best for resto. Even though of course, this is the hunter forums.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    stay where you are filthy alliance scum

    On topic:

    Troll mon' cuz the voodoo be pew pew
    but like the others said, orc if you dont have decent gear as it is.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    any melee class is going to benefit from orcs axe expertise a lot with the exception of a mut rogue obviously. and tauren is flat out the best tank, 750 hp is basicly unbeatable as far as racials go for tanks. taurens will soon be able to be all tanking classes, as they are getting access to paladins soon.
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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Whats the difference in dps between Trolls and Orcs? like 20-30 dps.
    Play what you think looks good.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infs
    Whats the difference in dps between Trolls and Orcs? like 20-30 dps.
    Play what you think looks good.
    To the min/maxers that differential amount of DPS matters. For those who play for fun and sport, I say your advice is the best.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Trolls be flippin' mon!

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilgopher
    It would have helped if you said what class you were playing, just a little, its only a BIG difference.

    Shaman/any spec. - Orc
    Paladin - Durr, Blood Elf
    Hunters - Orc
    Mages - Troll
    Rogues - Orc/Troll/BE are all good choices, Orc will most likely fare a little better
    Priest healing - BE
    Priest DPS - Troll
    Warrior - Orc
    DK - Orc
    Warlock - Orc
    Druid - Durr, Tauren

    The Orcs Bloodfury spell which gives AP and SP, their expertise with axes/fists, and extra damage from pets will make it the superior race PvE wise for almost every dps class.

    Trolls only have the 20% haste cooldown for 10 seconds which isnt that attractive.

    This is all in terms of PvE
    You missed the mark a few times.

    To answer the OP, trolls are the best hunters for a variety of reasons. Berserking is a great CD to use and becomes even better when you go MM. Bow Specialization is amazing considering the best hunter weapons in game are infact bows. Beast slaying is a fun little bonus that doesn't hurt to have. That and that trolls are the master race and tusks > no tusks.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilgopher
    What kind of spreadsheets are you reading that generalize the entire games worth of classes into one race being better. Even in ICC 25 heroic gear orcs will be better than trolls for a lot of classes and specs. Don't give bad advice.
    Lol I love how you tried to be all superior and know-it-all-y (yes I know it's not a word)
    Hunter forums for a reason.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptiki
    To the min/maxers that differential amount of DPS matters. For those who play for fun and sport, I say your advice is the best.
    Thats like 0.15% dps in high end gear, I would gladly sacriface that amount to be able to choose a toon I actually like to look at instead of something I hate the looks of.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    I would be ignore racials completely since they're getting redesigned for Cataclysm. You won't be seeing one class benefit from a racial more than another, anymore. Just look at the Goblin and Worgen racials. They're designed so every class can benefit from each one equally.

    That said, I'd roll a level one toon of each race and see which one appeals the most to you. Check what they're like when shooting a ranged weapon, fighting melee, running, walking, jumping, dancing, laughing. Check the lore of each. Pick whichever one you think looks and sounds the best. Given, you can do this or not but, I'd advise against choosing strictly on racials since they're all set to change. I've couldn't even tell you the racials of most races since I couldn't care less what they are...I think I actually have some of the worst race/class combinations when it comes to racials. :P

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Thanks to everyone that offered help, lol to all the people that don't know what forum theyre posting in

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infs
    Thats like 0.15% dps in high end gear, I would gladly sacriface that amount to be able to choose a toon I actually like to look at instead of something I hate the looks of.
    I am in now way debating the magnitude of the benefit with you, and I prefer your advice over even what I gave to the OP.

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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infs
    I would so go troll if I was horde. Feel da voodoo mon.
    You come get da Voodoo!
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    Re: Xferring to the horde. What race?

    Trolls. Don't even have to think about it. Just go Troll.
    Plus, like someone said before, racials won't be much of a factor anymore
    come Cataclysm as they will be redesigned and balanced.
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