[Cat] Mihir's "Fix my Feral DPS Gear" thread'

[Faltemer]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...er&cn=Faltemer

Please post anything Ive done wrong.

As far as my questions go for some reason I'm thinking getting Banner from ToC5 Normal and replacing scorpion would be better? Also If I keep scorpion I'm a little over ArP cap right?

I know some of my enchantments are simply the "cheap" version and I will be changing that soon, but if some are simply wrong please tell me.

[Treeko11]

Nightmare Tear should not be used in other sockets than blue, in which piece the socket bonus should be 4 Agi or higher. ArP should not be gemmed for until you have 300-400 passive ArP, at which point ArP becomes the best stat. Until then you should gem for pure Agility in red sockets. In yellow sockets you should put orange gems.

You are also missing quite a few enchants (which you are probably aware of): head, shoulders, back, chest and feet (get the +16 Agi enchant here).

When you gem and enchant - this is especially important at higher gear level items, like your chest, feet, legs and hands - you should try to get the best available (+20 Agi > +16 Agi).

4 points in Furor is wasted. Three would be optimal.

As for gear, there are a few upgrades you could make where raiding is not involved. For the neck you could get [Barbed Ymirheim Choker] from Forgemaster Garfrost in the heroic version of PoS, the belt could be upgraded to [Belt of the Twilight Assassin] for 28 conquest emblems, [Banner of Vitory] is a very good trinket acquired through the normal version of ToC5 that can be used all the way up and into ICC, and if you have the money [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] is another great trinket. [color=purple][Orca Hunter's Harpoon] is a nice upgrade for your weapon, which is acquired from Marwyn in the heroic version of HoR. Lastly, PvP pieces are not really good for PvE; I would suggest to get [Blighted Leather Footpads] from The Captain's Chest (the chest aboard the zeppelin) from the escape from the Lich King in the heroic version of HoR.

Edit: By the way, the 4pcT9 bonus is mediocre, so I'd rather get [Duskstalker Pauldrons] and [Mask of Lethal Intent] for some triumph emblems. Save your current ones, though, as you might get use for any of them later.

Thank you so much for the reply, thats really helpful.

Im currently at 318 passive arp, with my 2 gems, should I start gemming ArP?

Also, should I try and get NeS or what trinkets should i get?

Oh, and also, where would i put the extra point if not in Furor?

[Arctagon]

Thank you so much for the reply, thats really helpful.

Im currently at 318 passive arp, with my 2 gems, should I start gemming ArP?

Also, should I try and get NeS or what trinkets should i get?

Oh, and also, where would i put the extra point if not in Furor?

Passive ArP is the amount of ArP you have from your gear only, which implies that you have to omit gems and flasks when calculating it.

As far as I can see, your passive ArP is currently at 385, so gemming for it instead of Agility would be a DPS gain. And yes, NES is a good trinket for you to get, now as you are gemming for ArP.

Well, I'd put it together with the point from SI into FA. Personally I don't think Imp. Mangle is as good as it used to be. With patch 3.3.3 its effect duration increased to 60 sec, so you won't find yourself using Mangle a lot. If you were to move these points into FA, the talent would be maxed out.
That's my personal opinion, though. If you find yourself barely doing FBs or simply want to keep SI and Imp. Mangle, you might as well just keep your spec as it is, as one point into FA won't do much.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...er&cn=Faltemer

Please post anything Ive done wrong.

As far as my questions go for some reason I'm thinking getting Banner from ToC5 Normal and replacing scorpion would be better? Also If I keep scorpion I'm a little over ArP cap right?

I know some of my enchantments are simply the "cheap" version and I will be changing that soon, but if some are simply wrong please tell me.

Yes, you are somewhat over ArP cap when NES procs, but it's more correct to say that you are somewhat above the ArP softcap, as you are using NES. Switching out NES with BoV doesn't make sense in my eyes. You are gemming to ArP softcap for a reason, aye?

First of all, the Nightmare Tear would be better suited in your legs, as the socket bonus is better there. Now, if you were to change the socket in your head piece to an ArP gem, the socket in your cape into an Agi/Crit gem, and your yellow socket in your belt to an Agi/Crit gem, not only would you benefit from all the socket bonus, as the general rule of thumb is to put a yellow socket compatible gem into a piece with a socket bonus of +4 Agility or higher (also seeing that there aren't any blue sockets in the piece you are going to meet the requirement of, and neither any additional yellow sockets), you would also be very precisely placed at the ArP softcap, with one excessive point (723 instead of 722).

There is no point in gemming ArP past the softcap before you obtain gear that passively grants you over 1k ArP, so in the interval x ∈ [post-softcap, pre-1k+ passive ArP] you would be better off gemming Agility in red sockets.

[Faltemer]

Alright thanks, ill get right on that. Is there a certain ArP point where it would be better to switch out for BoV? I can't seem to win DBW so thats out for a while.

[ozmoses123]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...de&cn=Obsesion


just wondering what i should but with my frost badges 1st and if theres anything i need to fix

[Torzak]

(btw changed my own gear a bit, tell me if you see anything wrong with it!)

Since you're not bothered by the socket bonus on your belt, why not move the 20 arpen from your wrist to your belt, and move one of the hit gems in your belt to your wrist and gain 4 agi?

[Deleted]

Tnx, will fix that (Moved my gems around a bit yesterday to make my weapon prettier, but hadn't taken that yellow socket on bracers into account)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...de&cn=Obsesion


just wondering what i should but with my frost badges 1st and if theres anything i need to fix

Looks like you put the wrong meta gem in your helm, you got the 21 crit one instead of the 21agi one (and since the 21crit one requires 2 blue gems, it's not even activated).

The next T10 piece you should get is the legs, since you are over the hit cap, and below the exp cap. Also switch to agi enchant on boots.

You could switch your weapon enchant to something else, but since recently it was discovered mongoose got nerfed to 30 haste rating instead of 2% haste, it might be best to switch to berserking for now. Or if you want to optimize for ICC, scourgebane is even better (since everything except gunship is undead).

[Magicstorm]

Hi Mihir,

I´ve wanted to ask you to inspect my gear once more if you please
http://armory.wow-europe.com/charact...&cn=Magicstorm
My guild just downed LK10 and I´ve got the Tainted twig and I wanted to know if it would be an upgrade to my Distant Land.

Other gear I got:

Saurfang's coldforged Band (normal)
128 Emblems of Frost (HWT maybe? T10 Chest? Next Mark of Sanctification could be mine)
Aldriana's Gloves of Secrecy (normal)

Thank you very much!

[Deleted]

Since the tainted twig is lower ilvl (and thus has lower weapon dps), it's extremely unlikely it will be better than distant land; even if it gets you arpen capped, the loss of the feral ap is just too big.

I'd go for executioner on weapon, and use food/gems to get to 1280 arpen (executioner softcap). The rest of your gear looks fine to me; no need to switch to any of the other items you listed or buy a trinket/chest.

[Deleted]

I need help on my druid, With the new addition of a couple items i'm abit confused on my gear / gem choices so I decided to receive an experts help.
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...t&cn=terentius is my druid right there.

I do have chest from gunship, 251 hersir's greatspear and I am able to obtain any item from 11/12 10+25m icc.

Thanks, I appreciate the help

You're a bit too high on arpen, you only need 722 to softcap with NES (so only 682 when using arpen food).
Try to gem a bit more for hit, as well as picking up the socket bonus in your chest. Also switch weapon enchant to berserking (or scourgebane if you want to optimize for icc), since mongoose got nerfed to give 30 haste rating instead of 2% haste.

You should be able to end up at 224 hit rating, 100 expertise rating and 723 arpen; you could even go a bit higher on hit for a more consistent/easier rotation, tho it will be slightly lower dps.

[zyos]

Hi Mihir!

Just looking for some tips, on gearing etc etc.
in my current gear/gems i can push around 11k fight dependant, but i feel i can do more.
Just wondering if there is a way that i can sqeeze that extra bit more out of my char.

What is shown is my normal dps gear , however tonight i am hopefully getting DBW and a new staff, currently have hersir's greatspear, and shaft of glacial ice.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...enedar&cn=Zyos

Thanks

[anninhilus]

Well 1202 ap with food and im back now mihir. DBW will be mine eventually( hell i should be close to next in line by now) and I just picked up the 10 man polearm with arm pen. I was wondering would if be more beneficial to drop distantland and use the 10 man arm pen polearm so after i hit cap i can gem hit or should i keep distantland and stay at 1365 arp pen?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&cn=Anninhilus

[anninhilus]

disregard my post from earlier i already read what you thought on switching out arm pen weapons for distant land that are 251 & 258.

[Donano]

This is the third time I've posted maybe ill get a reply this time.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...crank&cn=Haden

I have the 251 gloves off saurfang 10m if there better than the current ones I'm wearing.

[Deleted]

Apologies for not replying to you before

But here it goes:

The scourge stranglers are better than the T10 ones, so use those instead. I'd also switch weapon enchant to berserking, and gloves enchant to 20agi. Since you're still using NES from FoS, you should try to stay at 722 arpen, any more than that will be wasted stats when NES procs. So either replace the NES with a death's verdict or whispering fanged skull (don't buy a herkuml war token tho, getting 4T10 bonus first is much more important), or replace all arpen gems with 10agi+10haste in yellow sockets, nightmare tear in a blue socket with +6 agi bonus, and 20agi in the rest (you should be able to end up at 720 arpen that way).

[Grinthe]

Hey there, I haven't been a cat since early ToC and I have just recently dusted it off. Lacking some direction right now, should I continue down the arp route? Lets just assume that all non-heroic loot up to LK is available to me at the moment.

When I remade my spec I opted out of imp. mangle since it seemed rather pointless after the duration change, mistake?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...lls&cn=Ramayne

ps* I know I had a reason for those 2 agility gems, I can't remember what. -.- ARP cap with NES maybe.

[Deleted]

You'll have to calculate this for yourself. Generally if you have to switch targets in a fight (and thus put up mangle more than 1x per minute) it's worth keeping 3/3 imp. mangle. Feral aggression really is a poor talent investment, especially if you gear isn't that good yet since you won't be FBing much then.

Try to focus a bit more on socket bonuses atm; since your gear is relatively bad, you'll need every stat you can get to compete. Put 10agi+10haste gems in the yellow sockets in your helm, shoulders, chest, gloves and ring, and put 20arpen gems in the rest (keep the nightmare tear where it is). You also might want to switch some enchants: gloves should be 20agi and boots 16agi.

Remember that with the NES, the softcap is 722 arpen. So as long as you don't have 2 trinkets better than the NES, stay as close to that as you can (don't sacrifice good socket bonuses tho!). Better trinkets are DBW, WFS, HWT, DC.

If you got plenty of triumph emblems, you could consider getting the T9 helm/chest. Your GS will go down, but your DPS will go up a bit

[Ahleu]

I've played my cat for awhile and I'm one of the top dps in my guild. But I feel as if I can pull higher numbers than I'm currently doing. Ive been in a couple raids with other cats less geared than me and they're keeping up with my dps. It's not my "rotation", im pretty good at keeping my dots and SR up. So I guessed gems. I'm currently trying to get DBW and the gloves off Rotface. Not sure if I should replace some gems with more arp or agi/crit/haste?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ea+52&cn=Ahleu

[Donano]

Thanks Mihir your advice is really helpful.

[Deleted]

I've played my cat for awhile and I'm one of the top dps in my guild. But I feel as if I can pull higher numbers than I'm currently doing. Ive been in a couple raids with other cats less geared than me and they're keeping up with my dps. It's not my "rotation", im pretty good at keeping my dots and SR up. So I guessed gems. I'm currently trying to get DBW and the gloves off Rotface. Not sure if I should replace some gems with more arp or agi/crit/haste?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ea+52&cn=Ahleu

You can slightly optimize your gems/enchants but it won't make a huge difference. Specifically, change gloves enchant to 20hit, move the nightmare tear to the blue socket in your weapon, put 20hit or 10hit+10exp gems in the single yellow sockets with +6 agi bonuses, and 34/20 arpen in all other sockets. But don't expect it to increase your dps by more than 50 :P