dw frost spec

[Coldbringer]

u guys got any ideas of a dw frost dps spec for 3.3.3

ive been messing around a bit and i think either this or this

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...MJQJzVM,,11623

or

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...M1Xq3O1,,11623

the question is will the 2% strength make up for the loss of BCB

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...w2A56zS,,11623

also thinkin of this spec...idk if the 4% strength will increase dps overall

give me your thoughts thanks

[Thekri]

None of the above, keep 3/3 BcB, drop one in Killing Machine and the other point in Chill of the Grave. Put them in 2/2 Endless Winter.

[Shelly]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...X,wpa-3O,11623

Is the one I'll be using. Subversion is just way too useful all around, I don't see a huge damage increase overall with BCB (yes, even with the extra haste coming in the next patch, but this could change as I upgrade weapons), and KM is the only place where you can really drop points, as well as it's the talent that loses the most as you upgrade your gear and gain a higher crit %.

As for chill, is RP ever a problem for you?

[Coldbringer]

how can u put 3 points in bcb, and 2 in endless winter and 1 in CotG.

i must be missing something or u must be removing something in the spec im not aware of

[Chiefsfan03]

oh, since Frost is getting buffed, everyone wants to be frost now...

[Pureanimosity7]

http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...00000000000000

That is what I have as my spec atm, although when 3.3.3 comes out I am thinking maybe the one point out of subversion and maybe BCB. Although like you said earlier, they will more than likely make that a lot better with the 20% additional haste. More of a question would be about Glyph of disease at this point, I am thinking it may make the rotation easier than it is now. Also if Rune of Razorice will be worth while again.

[Albert the fish]

how can u put 3 points in bcb, and 2 in endless winter and 1 in CotG.

i must be missing something or u must be removing something in the spec im not aware of

he spoke of Killing Machine as well. His spec proposes 1 point in KM, 3 in BC, 2 in CotG 2 in EW as opposed to 5 in KM and 3 in BCB, which is the standard atm.

3+2+2+1=8
5+3=8

[Memm]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...Z-H7MO7,,11623
Spec I'll be running come 3.3.3, BI is a horrible point for point talent
2/2 cotg specs require you to have stupidly low ms, no lag, and fast reactions or else you'll swim in rp like crazy
and with the 20% haste nobody should drop 3/3 bcb, barely anything is worth over 1%dps per talent.
(tell the pallies to macro salv to you if your tanks/hunters/rogues are bad and cant keep threat ahead of you, subversion specs are meh especially at higher gear levels)

p.s. locks dont deserve our hands of salv!

[Morro Fenris]

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent#jZG0e...ofM0hxc:ksaMmV

^ Win

[Memm]

0/2 specs are meh if your latency is somewhat normal
When you get a free GCD you'll be crying!

[Coldbringer]

i really do not get the reason for not having points in chill of the grave

ive tried doing it and end up rp starved

but this spec looks attractive to my taste

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...Z-H7MO7,,11623

the question is will the extra rp and 4% strength make up for the loss in frost and shadow damage??

[Pestiferius]

4 Pts Km is enough, CotG no need with Rime procs u aint got enough GCDs anyway so try :

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...HnBh0NB,,11623

Mfg PEST

[Coldbringer]

and i should run with oblit, pest and frost strike glyphs?

[Apostolic]

i really do not get the reason for not having points in chill of the grave

ive tried doing it and end up rp starved

but this spec looks attractive to my taste

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...Z-H7MO7,,11623

the question is will the extra rp and 4% strength make up for the loss in frost and shadow damage??

Personally I would move the points out of KM since Haste will actually increase the proc rate. Not sure what the sims will show as being the proper number in KM to keep it at an equal proc rate.

[Unholyground]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...8,awpeO3,11403
That is what I have been using on live for quite some time, it manages to get me 6k dps so I think its good.

[mhp]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...8,awpeO3,11403
That is what I have been using on live for quite some time, it manages to get me 6k dps so I think its good.

You don't have UbA. It's not good.

[Unholyground]

You don't have UbA. It's not good.

Its not that great of an ability until after the patch, which then I will get it. Right now I would rather have 6% more crit to my obliterate. So don't be a bitch.

[Praxis]

Its not that great of an ability until after the patch, which then I will get it. Right now I would rather have 6% more crit to my obliterate. So don't be a bitch.

He's not being a bitch. He's right. Used on CD, it's ~3.33% strength. I'd say you're probably the one "being a bitch" for not understanding that even now, it's great. You act like 6k DPS is anything worth mentioning.

EDIT: You also glyphed Howling Blast instead of Frost Strike. I don't understand how that decision could ever be a good one.

[mhp]

It's better than 6% crit for something that already crits a lot.

[Coldbringer]

sigh i the reason i made this post was to discuss about 3.3.3 specs haha