Renewed Hope change

[funkyfloyd]

Renewed Hope: now has a 60-second duration, up from 20 seconds, but a 20-second cooldown.

suggestions on how to track this? its not like its in my spellbook so i can put it on a bar to see the 20 sec cooldown.

[Frmercury]

You don't. This 'change' changed less than nothing. Renewed Hope will still have 100% uptime, it just won't be spamming the combat log every second, which is what the bulk of the changes were aiming to do: reduce combat log spam.

[Stumbelline]

Thanks for this, I was wondering what exactly patch notes meant

[funkyfloyd]

You don't. This 'change' changed less than nothing. Renewed Hope will still have 100% uptime, it just won't be spamming the combat log every second, which is what the bulk of the changes were aiming to do: reduce combat log spam.

confused...

so the 20 second cooldown...uh...will be an instant cooldown?
there wont be a 20 second cooldown?

[seam]

confused...

so the 20 second cooldown...uh...will be an instant cooldown?
there wont be a 20 second cooldown?

20 second CD.

The buff you give by bubbling someone lasts 60 seconds.

So when there is 40 seconds left on the buff, it gets refreshed with the next bubble.

Assuming your disc, and bubbling at least every 15 seconds, there is virtually no CD.

[crypttr]

This changes nothing tbh.
It only means that you cant put Renewed hope up more then once every 20 seconds. Rest is like before. It will still have 100% uptime.

[Frmercury]

Currently:

PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS - Renewed Hope


3.3.3:

PWS - Renewed Hope
PWS
PWS
PWS
PWS
PWS
PWS
.... 20 seconds from the first shield...
PWS - Renewed Hope


It will still have a 100% uptime, it just won't spam 25 combat logs with.. well... spam. It will have no effect on gameplay or anything else.

[funkyfloyd]

20 second CD.

The buff you give by bubbling someone lasts 60 seconds.

So when there is 40 seconds left on the buff, it gets refreshed with the next bubble.

Assuming your disc, and bubbling at least every 15 seconds, there is virtually no CD.

this makes some sense, so you are saying its not unlike weakened soul then.

[seam]

this makes some sense, so you are saying its not unlike weakened soul then.

Kinda.

But it lasts for a long time. And you can cast bubbles while you have renewed hope.

[funkyfloyd]

so to sum up:

the 20 sec cooldown is PER PLAYER, not the spell?

[Frmercury]

so to sum up:

the 20 sec cooldown is PER PLAYER, not the spell?

No, what are you talking about? I'm fairly certain you wouldn't be confused about the change if you understood how Renewed Hope worked currently.

[Frmercury]

Renewed Hope

Renewed Hope Rank 2
Increases the critical effect chance of your Flash Heal, Greater Heal and Penance (Heal) spells by 4% on targets afflicted by the Weakened Soul effect, and you have a 100% chance to reduce all damage taken by 3% for 20 sec to all friendly party and raid targets when you cast Power Word: Shield.

Every time you cast PW:S everyone in the raid gains Renewed Hope for 20 seconds.

[funkyfloyd]

No, what are you talking about? I'm fairly certain you wouldn't be confused about the change if you understood how Renewed Hope worked currently.

nah, you are right, im an idiot.
i was just now playing with it and i had always assumed renewed hope popped on the player, not just me.

[Frmercury]

nah, you are right, im an idiot.
i was just now playing with it and i had always assumed renewed hope popped on the player, not just me

Don't say that, there were/are a lot of people who didn't understand the change.

[Deleted]

Basically, the Renewed Hope buff that gets applied to the raid when you bubble someone, can now only be applied to the raid once every 20 seconds. The effect of the buff and other aspects of shields have not changed at all.

It is a buff, as you now only have to cast a shield every 60 seconds to keep it up as opposed to 20 (though any disc priest not casting shield every 20 seconds is, well, bad), and it will send much less combat log spam, helping to improve performance.