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    Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    In a raid scenario there is no better option than mouseover healing. People may say "I've been clicking since Vanilla that's how I will always do it" - This is simply not as effective.

    Mouseover healing is required for elite paladins due to regaining mana through seal of wisdom, and for elite shamans for purging and wind shearing enemies.

    Please state which addons/methods you use for mouseover healing. I am open to new ideas to progress my PVE healing skill.



    I use grid with raid debuffs addon, as well as many mouseover macros consisting of
    Code:
    /cast [target=mouseover] healing wave
    I hover my curser over the grid frames and press my keybinds to heal, dispel, and assist fellow raid members.




    An example why mouseover is superior to clicking.

    You're tanking as a paladin. Someone in the raid is getting attacked by a melee based enemy, you need to give them hand of protection without losing threat on your current target. You mouseover their raid frame and press your keybind "/cast [target=mouseover] hand of protection" - You just assisted them without deselecting your current target.


    Please if you still click heal, at least try to mouseover heal at least for one day. I assure you'll notice a great difference in effectiveness.
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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    clique

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    "Non-Mouseover healers are inadequate healers."

    Oh come on....
    Quote Originally Posted by Applepie
    your retarded.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Thryri
    "Non-Mouseover healers are inadequate healers."

    Oh come on....
    haha well it is fairly true.
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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Whether or not non mouseover healing is adequate depends on the content that you are running, but I don't think anyone will argue that it isn't worse than mouseover healing.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Healbot seems to do exactly the same as Grid cept there is no need to write any macros just hit whatever button on ur mouse is required over the frame of who you want to heal=win.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    So I'm guessing you keyboard turn and run when you're needing to keep casting on the move?

    Also...

    Quote Originally Posted by ProteinOrcWarrior

    You're tanking as a paladin. Someone in the raid is getting attacked by a melee based enemy, you need to give them hand of protection without losing threat on your current target. You mouseover their raid frame and press your keybind "/cast [target=mouseover] hand of protection" - You just assisted them without deselecting your current target.

    A tanking situation as an example for why healing with mouse overs is better?

    And, this can already be done without deselecting your target. Click on Hand of Protection, and your mouse cursor will become glowy. Click the desired target in your raid frames. Viola!

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    As a resto druid mouseover macros are essential as it is hard to target everyone in such speed that I do not loose a rejuv here or there.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Leidus
    So I'm guessing you keyboard turn and run when you're needing to keep casting on the move?

    Also...

    A tanking situation as an example for why healing with mouse overs is better?

    And, this can already be done without deselecting your target. Click on Hand of Protection, and your mouse cursor will become glowy. Click the desired target in your raid frames. Viola!
    What this guy said

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Gratzzz
    As a resto druid mouseover macros are essential as it is hard to target everyone in such speed that I do not loose a rejuv here or there.
    you do know healbot shows u all targets in raid and the ones that have rejuv have a tiny rejuv image with the time remaining in that persons' rejuv

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandorka PR
    you do know healbot shows u all targets in raid and the ones that have rejuv have a tiny rejuv image with the time remaining in that persons' rejuv
    you do know that grid shows a little green box in one of the corners depending on your setup for what buffs people have. i.e Rejuv

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Leidus
    So I'm guessing you keyboard turn and run when you're needing to keep casting on the move?
    Last time I checked, straffing, or moving foward does not mean keyboard turn.
    Also...

    A tanking situation as an example for why healing with mouse overs is better?

    And, this can already be done without deselecting your target. Click on Hand of Protection, and your mouse cursor will become glowy. Click the desired target in your raid frames. Viola!
    How long does it take you to click on Bop with glowy hands to bop a melee vs pressing 1 button for insta bop?

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Leidus
    So I'm guessing you keyboard turn and run when you're needing to keep casting on the move?
    And, this can already be done without deselecting your target. Click on Hand of Protection, and your mouse cursor will become glowy. Click the desired target in your raid frames. Viola!
    Strafing and moving does not mean keyboard turning. I use the A and D keys for binds so technically I am unable to keyboard turn.


    If you click on hand of protection, I believe it would cast it on yourself?
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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Healbot is the same exact function, except the "macros" are on your mouse. It works well for me.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    i was skeptical at first and hesitated to try it but once i did i have never gone back it is the most effective way i have ever healed

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Onatala
    Last time I checked, straffing, or moving foward does not mean keyboard turn.
    Because all movement needed in a raid is done with forward and strafe.

    How long does it take you to click on Bop with glowy hands to bop a melee vs pressing 1 button for insta bop?
    Not much time. It's on my bar right next to my raid frames along with Salv. I've never had a situation where I thought "Damn.. if only I could have cast BoP a microsecond faster.."

    Quote Originally Posted by ProteinOrcWarrior
    If you click on hand of protection, I believe it would cast it on yourself?
    Only if you have auto-self cast on. I know Blizzard defaults to that as of like 2 patches ago, which is frustrating, but it's something I turned off immediately on all my characters, along with the horrible new way of stacking the nameplates that makes it impossible to use to select targets in melee faster than tabbing.


    I want to also make it clear I'm not trying to say Mouseover Healing isn't good. I just think it's a bit goofy to make a topic called "Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods", then trounce on "Standard Methods" and then only ask for input about mouseover healing. There is a lot of value to both methods and each is going to have its own pros and cons, and it will ultimately end up which is better for each individual.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Onatala
    Last time I checked, straffing, or moving foward does not mean keyboard turn.
    How long does it take you to click on Bop with glowy hands to bop a melee vs pressing 1 button for insta bop?
    Less time than the global cooldown that is probably already active. You don't have to CLICK on bop either. It's the difference between "click" and "1->click". Tiny fractions of a second if that's what you're used to.

    I use mouse over healing and wouldn't have it any other way. To say it is the only way to be an adequate healer is god damn ridiculous though.

    Also, as others have pointed out, you can heal just fine without losing your target if you just turn off auto self cast.

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Cactrot
    as others have pointed out, you can heal just fine without losing your target if you just turn off auto self cast.
    Heal yourself sure. But you can't heal others without losing target unless you mouseover heal.
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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by ProteinOrcWarrior
    Heal yourself sure. But you can't heal others without losing target unless you mouseover heal.
    You can if you use /cast [target=XXX]. I know I macro'd the whole Bloodboil fight as resto druid back in TBC...

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    Re: Mouseover Healing Vs. Standard Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by ProteinOrcWarrior
    Heal yourself sure. But you can't heal others without losing target unless you mouseover heal.
    ... Are you retarded or did you not read what I typed? The entire point is that you can heal just fine without losing target. Yes, heal others. Yes, without mouseover. Turn of auto self cast, tadaaa you can target others.

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