Healing valithria(25) as a paladin help.

[Patrlol]

My armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...rius&cn=Elcure

I must be doing something wrong but i am getting out healed by a shaman(http://www.wowarmory.com/character-t...n=Solx&group=1) in my guild.

i am using the chance on sp on holy light libram and seal of light glyph along with a SP flask. food buffs.

This is what i am doing: beacon of light a tank before pull. Judge for jotp. pop wings, sp trinket, t10 bonus and then i lay on hands val. followed by spaming Holy lights untill portal pops. portal pops.(i take it every time it pops) come out refresh beacon if i have to and just spam HL. rinse and repeat.
the shaman whispers me and says i should be smashing him on the healing meters. I am like 7-10% below him. I am guessing my sp is too low?

Val is not the only fights he out heals me. I feel like i just cant spam my HL button enuff. Any help appreciated.

My armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...rius&cn=Elcure

[Deleted]

Our Hpala is setting Beacon on Vali, and use LoH only at the end.
If you'd post some numbers, logs or sth we could help you more.

[Ryme]

Save wings and 2set bonus until at least a portal or two.

There could simply be the case that the shaman has more HPS than you. People tend to think of paladins as the top single target HPS class as it's something we do often. However, the reason we do this is more because we're the most mana efficient and single target is what we do best.

[Deleted]

Are your buffs from the portals falling off in between portals?
You should be able to grab one could at the last second of one cloud, then the first quickly in the second and not loose the buff. This way you can get to 30+ stacks of the buff if you are good enough.

[scotty]

well what i do is cast beacon on valithria, i have macro to set valithria my focus and cast beacon on focus target , and i either spam hl on myself or a dps close to me for glyph of hl splash, ive gotten up to 30khps on this fight and there si no way a shaman should get near that , so as the poster above said , can u show some numbers and we can see whats the difference.

Unlike shadowdreams says i use all my cd's at the start and there usualy rdy when boss is about 85%.

and ye abb is correct u need to enter every portal as soon as it spawns and make sure your buffs are stacking as high as possible

[aletha]

do u have a report?

I begin with all cds (holy priest cd active in it)

and then spam HL only shock when moving to a portal, anyway the shamman is really good for this boss too

im around 30/35k hps and the shammans 28-30k

if you heal the boss to full health your healing is Ok,xD


PD: sry bad english

PD2: if you stack 30 buff provably you are spark ninja or only two healers inside portals, the boss finishes before you could stack it

[Tyranus]

Aye make sure that you are using the holy light glyph here and allowing it to splash, it double dips and heals for a lot.

[Ryme]

Unlike shadowdreams says i use all my cd's at the start and there usualy rdy when boss is about 85%.

Sorry, I should have said I can only report from a 10 man perspective having recently moved to a strict 10 man guild.

[Funky303]

if you have some second gear with some spellpower and crit instead of manareg, that could push your numbers.

Since manareg ain't a problem in that fight you'd better have max spellpower.

Use the 2t10 bonus + wings after getting out of the second last portal and you should hit the 30k in a 10man raid.

The most important thing still is: don't loose the buff. LoH when having max stacks.

[Draltor]

Not a paladin myself, but for Dreamwalker would Glyph of Seal of Light not be vastly superior to wisdom on this fight? Since you won't go oom and 5% is a lot with all your stacks.

Should help you beat that there shaman :P

[kungfumonkey]

Beacon Val (you'll want a macro for this) and spam heal yourslef whilst stood next to her.. the glyph of Holy light splash does an abolute tonne of healing.

Pop wings, trinks, intellect at start and spam her before the first portal.. they will all be off cooldown again after about the 3rd portal i think so dont worry that your wasting them.. You can actually heal a good 15% before the first prtal even spawns.

the rest is dont let the buff drop off.

[Meliann]

Tbh most posts that I read states that shamans are winning with us in hps on this fight. Use Glyph of Seal of Light + Glyph of Holy Light, stand near the dragon, beacon her and spam yourself. Crusader Aura improves your movement speed while in dream state (at least was week ago). Go for 245 libram, I use mix of my pve and pvp gear to get as much sp as I can. LoH later in the fight, when you'll have more stacks. Those are the only ways to make better hps on this fight. You can also try steath of light build, personally I never used it but I read that you can get some crazy numbers here with this build.

[DariuszZ]

Tbh. as holy pala im geting outhealed by resto shaman on this fight also even if i have like 5k hps more. The reason of it is behind Hot that resto might proc from weapon or even from similar spell to holy shock spell Riptade so u dont have to worry much. Anyway poping cds at begining of fight isint good idea. Pop AW on 2nd portal / T10 bonus on 3rd and then u can have those cds rdy later into fight so u can use them twice.

[Vaxall]

well what i do is cast beacon on valithria, i have macro to set valithria my focus and cast beacon on focus target , and i either spam hl on myself or a dps close to me for glyph of hl splash, ive gotten up to 30khps on this fight and there si no way a shaman should get near that , so as the poster above said , can u show some numbers and we can see whats the difference.

Unlike shadowdreams says i use all my cd's at the start and there usualy rdy when boss is about 85%.

and ye abb is correct u need to enter every portal as soon as it spawns and make sure your buffs are stacking as high as possible

did 25k with my alt i play for about 4 weeks now, shamy and holy pala are about the same on this fight, since crit heals from the shamy heal vali again. It also depends on how many Clouds u get and how u time ur cds and spirit by priest etc etc.

[Mth]

You are using your cooldowns wrong.
The point of the portal is to get the buff that lets you heal for a lot more. That buff scales with your cooldowns. Using wings early on will only make you lose a lot of healing. Also, LoH will heal for.. maybe 60k if you use it in the beginning but it can heal for like 1.000.000 if you use it when you have like 30 stacks of the buff (can't remember how many you end up with).

You want to find a point where you can use the full duration of all your CDs when you have as many stacks of the buff as possible. You don't want to use them early on or too late. If you use them at like 90%, you will not use the full duration and thereby lose a lot of healing.

I would also beacon the boss and then just heal whoever needs healing outside (spam heal at all times though).

Your gear is not the problem, at all. Although you might want to drop some haste for some crit.

[Deathflid]

beacon her, stand in her healing yourself, pop wings + tier 10 2 set when you call for bloodlust at 50+ stacks.

generally can rake out 3 mil healing in the 15 seconds after bloodlust call.

edit : stand in her healing yourself with glyph of holy light, that shit splash heals her too for like 20k

[Acalon]

You should expect shamans to outheal you on this fight regardless and not worry about it. In fact, as a holy paladin you will be more effective NOT using the portals. That way your beacon will have 100% effectiveness on the dragon whilst you spam the raid.

Doing it this way means you will still attain 10-13k hps on the fight with a large reduction on your overheals. On hard mode this is even more true since shamans have better abilities to self heal than a paladin does.

If your guild does force you into portals then you can expect to achieve at least 20k hps, and should be aiming for 26-35k (providing you dont lose your stacks).

Also bear in mind that since the fight is sufficiently long you can blow all your cooldowns at the start of the fight (except Lay on hands), and they will be ready again when you need them later whilst sitting on around 30-35 stacks.

[Kleos]

Hi, as suggested by most people, Beacon valithria, use holy light on yourself, or a dps / tank thats close to her.

Make sure your using Glyph of holy light (the glyph splash does shedloads of healing )
Change your seal of wisdom glyph to light for the extra 5%
Keep JoTP up
Pop wings and 2set at the start, so you have them towards the end too when heroism is popped.

I heal her with 2 healers in 25 man, me and a shaman

My armory
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=Med%C3%ADc

And also heres a log of the fight
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...=13375&e=13678

(you can see how much the glyph heals for)

Hope this is helpful for you

[enbee]

Hi, as suggested by most people, Beacon valithria, use holy light on yourself, or a dps / tank thats close to her.

Make sure your using Glyph of holy light (the glyph splash does shedloads of healing )
Change your seal of wisdom glyph to light for the extra 5%
Keep JoTP up
Pop wings and 2set at the start, so you have them towards the end too when heroism is popped.

I heal her with 2 healers in 25 man, me and a shaman

My armory
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=Med%C3%ADc

And also heres a log of the fight
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k...=13375&e=13678

(you can see how much the glyph heals for)

Hope this is helpful for you

If you wanna pick it up a notch, beacon the dragon, and spamheal a warlock with imp demon armour standing next to the dragon, for great effect!

[Ylera]

Above poster is wrong. Paladins should be topping the meters for this fight.

http://www.wow.com/2010/03/14/the-li...a-dreamwalker/

Load up on SP (Seal of Light and it's glyph, SP Libram, etc). Beacon on Boss, you standing on it and healing yourself with Holy Light for the splash from the HL glyph (it will account for 25% of your healing alone). Use your cooldowns at the start, so they'll be back up for the burn phase. The rest of the time you'll be spending jumping in and out of portals until said burn phase. Go into every portal. Keep the stack of Emerald Vigor rolling till it hits 30 or so (or just over 5 mins into the fight.) Then call for hero and go all out until she reaches 100%. (all cooldowns, and save a Potion of Wild Magic use for hero).

http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/play...alker/25N/hps/
http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-2a...448#Wachposten