Retribution Profession choice.

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Hello all.
I've recently changed MS from Prot to Retri, and want to replace my mining profession with something better for retri.
I got enchanting also, but really dont want to get rid of that.

I dont really want JC, as I already got an alt with it.
So I've boiled it down to either Engineering or Blacksmithing.
Tryed asking RAWR, but it seems like it doesnt show show the right numbers for Engineering.

So I ask you, what would be best for Retribution, BS or Engi?

[Tortious]

Honestly, it depends on who you ask. There is a heated debate on Elitist Jerks' website on the matter.

Blacksmithing gives you the option to socket your bracers and gloves. This gives you 40 strength free! In terms of raw number, this is more than any other profession. Also, you can make a ton of money with this profession.

Engineering, however, as its own advantages. It gives you 1 more agility on your cloak, gives you the Hyperwrist enchant, as well as the hyperspeed to boots, which often results to more time on the boss. Also, though, it offers the Gnomish Battle Chicken, which is an odd little pet that you use right before engaging the boss. It is a lvl 90 pet that does a little damage, and has the slim chance to give your party a haste buff.

Again, it really depends on if you want raw numbers, or gimmicks to increase your damage.

[Deleted]

I kinda like all the gimmicks from Engineering, I would have to do it all over again due to Reforging in Cata.

Though Jeeves would also be pro Its a hard decision, atleast for me, which is why I turned to the forum

[Kscrub]

Blacksmithing for max dps.

Engineering for lolzfun

Blacksmithing can also be useful, whenever you dont have the keys to enter / open something, that's where Titanium keys becomes useful.

[Patty]

Blacksmithing for max dps.

Engineering for lolzfun

Blacksmithing can also be useful, whenever you dont have the keys to enter / open something, that's where Titanium keys becomes useful.

Not really

Engineering is a very useful thing, Boot enchant get you in place to hit things faster, Bombs for dps increase and many other gadgets which will help you in a raid..

Bs is a very neat thing to have for the more dps part. A good dps'er is worthless dead though.. And Engineering will help you survive if you use it right

[Esae]

It really doesnt matter if BS offers some retardedly low theoretical (at most double digit) dps advantage over engineering in patchwerk style lolfights that don't fucking exist anywhere outside of that one fight, engineering is hands down more dps in any fight where you get to utilize rocket boots to get a few more seconds of dps time, and more importantly the boots are insanely useful for tons and tons of specific fight mechanics either for surviving yourself or helping the raid.

[darkwarrior42]

Personally, I'm inclined towards blacksmithing for the versatility. I think blacksmithing would be more powerful than engineering if you went back to protection, or over to holy.... yeah, the rocket boots and glove enchants are nice, but holy can do just fine with tuskarr's vitality, and both can benefit from the customized gem options.

*shrug* If you think you're going to stay ret primarily for a long time, engineering is a good choice. And the glove tinkers are pretty solid for holy and prot under the right circumstances.... but Blacksmithing is consistently valuable for all three specs.

I love engineering on my mage, and I'd probably love it on my rogue as well... probably on just about any character I was going to keep as pure DPS.

Just my two cents, for whatever it's worth.

[Ronark]

For Max/min, go JC and either BS or Engineering.

For "whatever is beneficial", you could rank them as JC, > Engineering <> Blacksmithing, > Inscription > Leatherworking > Tailoring > Enchanting > Alchemy > Skinning > Mining <> Herbalism

For fun, I would suggest Alchemy and Engineering. They both have fun procs and quarky side effects which can be fun to use.

[Crothor]

i have a question. since lots of similar posts r debating the second profession being either BS or Eng, is it a good option to have Eng AND BS. i like BS, i feel like a smith but i would like to try out ENG also cuz it look's like lodes of fun.

[Deleted]

Ronark, don't inscription, LW and enchanting all 3 give a static 80 AP increase over no profession, while tailoring demands you give up your 22 AGI enchant?

so it would more be like:
JC > Engineering <> Blacksmithing > Inscription <> Leatherworking <> Enchanting <> Alchemy > Tailoring > Skinning > Mining <> Herbalism

i have a question. since lots of similar posts r debating the second profession being either BS or Eng, is it a good option to have Eng AND BS. i like BS, i feel like a smith but i would like to try out ENG also cuz it look's like lodes of fun.

JC just gives a higher bonus than either BS or eng. it gives 42 STR, while BS gives 40 and eng gives some that are harder to quantify.

[Riek]

I'd personally go with enginieering if I had a choice, faster SoV stacks and jus free potion of speed is win

[Deleted]

Recently started leveling my second paladin and going Enchanting and Engineering on her, dunno why but I've always found these to be sort of the paladin professions :P Already have a paladin with on the alliance side with Enchanting and Engineering!

Edit: On second thought, I blame Hobbs! I loved his videos he made back in BC and he was the reason I made a paladin to begin with, so probably got the profession thing from him as well as he had those two.

[Porte]

I'd personally go with enginieering if I had a choice, faster SoV stacks and jus free potion of speed is win

This this this. The haste is huge for getting your stacks up faster.

[DaGhostDS]

Recently started leveling my second paladin and going Enchanting and Engineering on her, dunno why but I've always found these to be sort of the paladin professions :P Already have a paladin with on the alliance side with Enchanting and Engineering!

Edit: On second thought, I blame Hobbs! I loved his videos he made back in BC and he was the reason I made a paladin to begin with, so probably got the profession thing from him as well as he had those two.

enchanting for paladin is pretty meh,
static ap on ring compared to str
spell power (lol overheal) on ring compared to intel
did they add stam for rings?

[Gilgemesh]

I had bs and tailoring on my pally, swapped to bs/jc and didn't notice any notable gains... Imo use what you like unless your raid spot is going to go up for grabs because of it.

[Symbioticon]

of blacksmithing vs Engineering, I'd suggest Engineering.

Having it myself, the hast to gloves is awesome for SoV stacks, especially on fights that have multiple targets etc - as well as a nice 1miin cd to use over and over again. Saronite bombs help dps as well

The rocketboots and parachute [both give Crit] are great fun as well - spore's on rotface? fester? i forget... if you get one and have to run out to save your ranged, rocket boots ftw.

For prot - the helm enchant is the most Stam you can get, as well as 885 armor to gloves is not bad either.

Bs gives what... 2 extra sockets? great when stacked w/ JC, but in a versus to Engineering... meh.

my .02cents

[Deleted]

enchanting for paladin is pretty meh,
static ap on ring compared to str
spell power (lol overheal) on ring compared to intel
did they add stam for rings?

Never said it was the best for the class or anything, but I just think they go hand in hand with the paladin class in my view of the class :P The other reason to have enchanting is that I like to do old content and to be able to diss stuff and sell is some good money

[deepfriar]

No idea if its been posted, JC and tailoring = max output with the tailoring cloak enchant and dragonseye gems

[Riek]

No idea if its been posted, JC and tailoring = max output with the tailoring cloak enchant and dragonseye gems

BS would probably result in more output

[Energy]

enchanting for paladin is pretty meh,
static ap on ring compared to str
spell power (lol overheal) on ring compared to intel
did they add stam for rings?

Yep. 2x30stam, 2x40ap, 2x24sp