SC2 single-player campaign to be subscription based

[stgeorge78]

You people are intelligent people.

The fact that some of you are actively considering that this could be in any way factual is insanity.

I see no links posted here. Troll thread.

Geez, why would I make this up.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...73&newsLang=en

You could have researched for yourself before jumping to conclusions - but the fact is, SC2 will be subscription-based for millions of people. Or is Latin America not a real place to you? $60 is not a realistic price for people in countries where that is equivalent to 2-weeks salary.

[pomop]

And you left out the most important fucking part.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/07/st...erica-asia-a/]
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...73&newsLang=en


This means that NOTHING FUCKING CHANGES for 90% of the people who view this site, and for half price people in certain territories can get 2 months plus subscription, or pay full price and get unlimited access..


Again, there's absolutely nothing to see here, just a different payment structure for countries that have generally poorer populations.

edit: 2 months is not 6 months ffs

Epic op pwnage imo

[kerwyn]

Geez, why would I make this up.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...73&newsLang=en

You could have researched for yourself before jumping to conclusions - but the fact is, SC2 will be subscription-based for millions of people. Or is Latin America not a real place to you? $60 is not a realistic price for people in countries where that is equivalent to 2-weeks salary.

Let's look at your thread title

SC2 single-player campaign to be subscription based

And your first post (the important part)

Looks like they are testing this out in Latin America... won't be long before this is standard for all Blizzard games worldwide.

This makes you look like a troll (which incidentally enough, was what you were doing). You put up a loaded thread title with a loaded OP just to get a rise out of people when this pricing means absolutely nothing to you, me, and 90% of people that browse this forum.

[Elanale]

My original post clearly states it's a Latin America press release - I didn't want to spam an entire press release, you can go find it yourself very easily.

No, the correct response to his post on your part would be "Oh, yes, sorry, I suppose my post WAS inflammatory and misleading. My bad." Because you made what is in fact a clever way of Blizzard making their product available to poorer nations sound like them being sleezey and underhanded. And the forum caught you out on it. Definitely a "my bad" situation.

[stgeorge78]

And you left out the most important fucking part.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/07/st...erica-asia-a/]
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...73&newsLang=en


This means that NOTHING FUCKING CHANGES for 90% of the people who view this site, and for half price people in certain territories can get 2 months plus subscription, or pay full price and get unlimited access..


Again, there's absolutely nothing to see here, just a different payment structure for countries that have generally poorer populations.

edit: 2 months is not 6 months ffs

So you proved it's not made up - thank you for doing some research. Doesn't change the fact that Blizzard is testing a subscription-based method of selling their games. If it proves successful, then there is no reason Blizzard will not make this their standard way of selling games. Activision has already announced this same pricing structure for the next Modern Warfare game. Activision and Blizzard - it's not like they are the same company right?

[DreamOfTheRood]

This makes you look like a troll (which incidentally enough, was what you were doing). You put up a loaded thread title with a loaded OP just to get a rise out of people when this pricing means absolutely nothing to you, me, and 90% of people that browse this forum.

I'm an better troll than this guy ever will be.

[kerwyn]

So you proved it's not made up - thank you for doing some research. Doesn't change the fact that Blizzard is testing a subscription-based method of selling their games. If it proves successful, then there is no reason Blizzard will not make this their standard way of selling games. Activision has already announced this same pricing structure for the next Modern Warfare game. Activision and Blizzard - it's not like they are the same company right?

Except the very same press release says the full product will be available for $60 forever. In fact, I'd gladly pay $30 for a game I'll only have access to for 2 months if I know i'm likely to never play it again afterwards. This changes very little for almost everyone, no matter how much you want to hype this up as some money grab, how blizzard is becoming more greedy, and coming up with such clever things as "Activi$ion" and "Bli$$." This isn't even a fucking issue in yet you're making it into one based on absolutely nothing.

[stgeorge78]

No, the correct response to his post on your part would be "Oh, yes, sorry, I suppose my post WAS inflammatory and misleading. My bad." Because you made what is in fact a clever way of Blizzard making their product available to poorer nations sound like them being sleezey and underhanded. And the forum caught you out on it. Definitely a "my bad" situation.

The title is accurate and the source has been linked. You can read it for yourself and come to your own conclusions. My only concern is how angry some of you are - it's just a game, relax, take a deep breath, your dog is still alive, nobody burned your house down.

[stgeorge78]

Except the very same press release says the full product will be available for $60 forever. In fact, I'd gladly pay $30 for a game I'll only have access to for 2 months if I know i'm likely to never play it again afterwards. This changes very little for almost everyone, no matter how much you want to hype this up as some money grab, how blizzard is becoming more greedy, and coming up with such clever things as "Activi$ion" and "Bli$$." This isn't even a fucking issue in yet you're making it into one based on absolutely nothing.

"Activi$ion" and "Bli$$"? Now you are the one making things up - I never posted anything like that. Perhaps you're redirecting your anger at me for something that happened to you today - just take it easy dude, we're all buddies here.

[Elanale]

So you proved it's not made up - thank you for doing some research. Doesn't change the fact that Blizzard is testing a subscription-based method of selling their games. If it proves successful, then there is no reason Blizzard will not make this their standard way of selling games. Activision has already announced this same pricing structure for the next Modern Warfare game. Activision and Blizzard - it's not like they are the same company right?

No. You see, what you're doing is editting out key information and replacing fact with your own theorizing. Personally, I think that it's extremely farfetched that they'd make this their only venue for selling Starcraft. They'd lose a lot of potential buyers. I, personally, wouldn't bother with it if it were a monthly game, and I'm a staunch Blizzard supporter. People with less loyalty would be even more likely to ignore it.

And people tend to be annoyed when other people mislead them. And the title is NOT accurate, because the title implies that the game is subscription based. The TRUTH is that there exists an ALTERNATE PAYMENT MODEL in certain regions allowing subscription payments instead of a lump sum payment. Nowhere in the world is SC2 a subscription-based game exclusively, as the title implies.

If it wasn't deliberate you have a lot to learn about effective communication.

[kerwyn]

"Activi$ion" and "Bli$$"? Now you are the one making things up - I never posted anything like that. Perhaps you're redirecting your anger at me for something that happened to you today - just take it easy dude, we're all buddies here.

Oh, that was a shot at everyone that says blizzard is just going for cash grabs now (because anyone who says that is fucking retarded)

Your OP was in the same tone and just as inflammatory as the people who say that, so it's a valid comparison. (Also I'm kinda tired and hungry, head isn't fully in it)

Either way, this thread is fucking dumb. I'm done here, anyone who comes in looking at the thread title will hopefully read what I said and realize that this doesn't affect them whatsoever (Unless they live in a country where it does)

No. You see, what you're doing is editting out key information and replacing fact with your own theorizing. Personally, I think that it's extremely farfetched that they'd make this their only venue for selling Starcraft. They'd lose a lot of potential buyers. I, personally, wouldn't bother with it if it were a monthly game, and I'm a staunch Blizzard supporter. People with less loyalty would be even more likely to ignore it.

And people tend to be annoyed when other people mislead them. And the title is NOT accurate, because the title implies that the game is subscription based. The TRUTH is that there exists an ALTERNATE PAYMENT MODEL in certain regions allowing subscription payments instead of a lump sum payment. Nowhere in the world is SC2 a subscription-based game exclusively, as the title implies.

If it wasn't deliberate you have a lot to learn about effective communication.

This is what I'm getting at in a more eloquent fashion, I'm tired hungry and irritable and threads like this piss me the fuck off.

I need to go eat :x

[pomop]

So you proved it's not made up - thank you for doing some research. Doesn't change the fact that Blizzard is testing a subscription-based method of selling their games. If it proves successful, then there is no reason Blizzard will not make this their standard way of selling games. Activision has already announced this same pricing structure for the next Modern Warfare game. Activision and Blizzard - it's not like they are the same company right?

Because they like money? Why get $60 over 4 months instead of $60 in 12 seconds?


Btw you know who else uses a subscription based payment? many things. Internet, Car, insurance, house, and thousands others. Real life. Learn it. (Does a car dealership make a plan for you to pay your car over 10 months if you can pay it upfront? No. Sure they get a bit extra, but money up front is almost always preferred.)

edit - please lock this thread moderator. I'll love you long time.

[yuthirin]

And you left out the most important fucking part.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/07/st...erica-asia-a/]
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...73&newsLang=en


This means that NOTHING FUCKING CHANGES for 90% of the people who view this site, and for half price people in certain territories can get 2 months plus subscription, or pay full price and get unlimited access..


Again, there's absolutely nothing to see here, just a different payment structure for countries that have generally poorer populations.

edit: 2 months is not 6 months ffs

^important. Thank you sir.

[talitu]

You people are intelligent people.

The fact that some of you are actively considering that this could be in any way factual is insanity.

I see no links posted here. Troll thread.

well if you read the Sc2 forums you will see plenty of blue and general discussion on this topic, they recently released details for russias business model it is the same sort of thing. plenty of places are getting the cheap +sub model.

so your WRONG WRONG WRONG , WROOONG , WROONG you are WROOOOOOONG1

[onetimeuser]

I stumbled into this thread by accident but upon reading it i felt i had to reply.

why? I live in mexico and i find this information unsettling. My personal reason is that the credit card I use isn't good for making online transactions so if i'm not able to buy the thing at a store so i can play it forever then I probably wont buy it at all.

but anyway the reason i wanted to post here is because some of you need a reality check:

If you think this is a way for people with low incomes to be able to play the game, think again. that makes no sense.

people with low incomes in latin america don't care about video games, they don't have computers, much less internet access at home. if they do they probably don't have a credit card to make the subscription payments. the idea is completely silly if it's meant as a different payment method for low income individuals. the market for this sort of product is the middle class, who can afford pretty much afford the $60.

if someone wants the game really bad and can afford to pay $30 for one month of play, then they can certainly save those $30 wait one more month and pay the full $60 without any kind of subscription scheme.

it makes no sense unless they are just making an experiment (hey if we can get people THERE to pay with this scheme then probably people in other places will do too!).

[stgeorge78]

So now Russia is getting the same plan. And yes, I agree that low-income families cannot pay the $30 anyway, so what's the point? Activision does not like products that have no exploitable recurring revenue (Bobby Kotick's words, not mine) especially in the PC world (they at least have consistent DLC revenue on the consoles).

[pancakez]

meh gonna download it if they make it subscription based.. o wait i will do that anyway lulz

[Dragonshardz]

I read somewhere that Blizzard actually plans to give free play time to customers who purchase their products. Say you just bought the brand new Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty. Since you have to create a battle.net account in order to register your product and start playing, you will also be given a free month of WoW or Diablo 3 (when it comes out). Now that, would be just awesome. One battle.net account for all games and with shared benefits - I smell some great looking platform for money making.

[Vanyshh]

So now Russia is getting the same plan. And yes, I agree that low-income families cannot pay the $30 anyway, so what's the point? Activision does not like products that have no exploitable recurring revenue (Bobby Kotick's words, not mine) especially in the PC world (they at least have consistent DLC revenue on the consoles).

/facepalm

[TheRabidDeer]

From a recent Latin America press release:

"With this purchase, players will have six months of access to the StarCraft II single-player campaign and multiplayer play through the new version of Battle.net®, the premier online gaming destination for Blizzard Entertainment gamers. Continued StarCraft II play beyond the time included with the initial purchase will be available via 30-day and 60-day subscription options. Pricing for these options will be announced at a later date."

Looks like they are testing this out in Latin America... won't be long before this is standard for all Blizzard games worldwide.

There are 2 options available (they are doing this in russia as well):
1) A much cheaper version that comes with 6 months of online play and the option to pay monthly after those 6 months (or you can instead purchase unlimited online play, which I presume will come out to slightly more expensive than buying the full retail version in the first place)
2) The full version at regular retail prices

They are by no means forcing a monthly fee on anybody, just giving the option. This is also for ONLINE play only, the single player campaign isnt subscription based as the title implies.