So I simmed Deathbringers Will....

[Goregasm.]

so i simmed DBW and it actually came up as about a 20dps increase over normal Tiny Abom... im really surprised about this... im also simming using Glyph of Windfury over Flame Shock and that is also like a 75 dps increase....

ive always been skeptical about sims, and this has really got me wondering.... any thoughts?

[herpecin]

is your sim considering the loss of hit from swaping out TAJ might drop you below spell cap?

[Edwin VanCleef]

Don't always trust simms

[Melonberry]

Most sims think tiny abom is worth about 1/4-1/2 as much dps as it is.

[Hendrixstorm]

It probably depends on your available buffs and your spell hit cap. How much hit do you have? Maybe that's your problem? Also, I've heard sims are having problems with calculating TaJ's ability to proc on hit effects

[Goregasm.]

is your sim considering the loss of hit from swaping out TAJ might drop you below spell cap?

i would still be at 440hit without tiny abom, which is still above spell hit cap...

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...am&cn=Goregasm




edit, my hits real high i know, but aint much i can do, this gear set up is simming the best currently.

[Goregasm.]

FOLLOW UP... when i sim Tiny Abom vs Whis Fang Skull, the tiny abom comes out on top... but when i sit on a target dummy, the Whis Fang Skull seems to trump tiny abom...

does the proc off tiny abom scale with buffs?....

[Cactrot]

FOLLOW UP... when i sim Tiny Abom vs Whis Fang Skull, the tiny abom comes out on top... but when i sit on a target dummy, the Whis Fang Skull seems to trump tiny abom...

does the proc off tiny abom scale with buffs?....

Why wouldn't it? It's an extra attack. Attacks scale with buffs

[Goregasm.]

Why wouldn't it? It's an extra attack. Attacks scale with buffs

word, it only seemed logical.. but i just wanted to see, cause i wasnt positive, ty.

[Goregasm.]

now, does anyone have an idea why glyph of windfury would sim for like 80dps more then glyph of flame shock?

[Billnye]

If you have questions about "why is my sim saying such and such?" then it's usually very helpful to post your EnhSim config file. It's very difficult to tell exactly what is wrong (if anything) without being able to see what's actually going on.

[Goregasm.]

ive simmed a bunch of other enhance shamans now, and simmed WF glyphs over FS, and WF comes out on top....

[Billnye]

Huh. That config is nothing near what's shown on your armory. I'd use Rawr and just import from armory and then to EnhSim but.. that still leaves me without your setup for priority, buffs, and combat parameters. And since the config that you posted has stats that don't match yours I'm going to assume that the other tabs also have a good chance of being incorrect. What are you using to import stats to EnhSim? Rawr or something different?

That being said, when I simmed the config that you posted, I got 9288 DPS. Replaced WF glyph with FS glyph and got 9326 DPS. Not sure what else to say.

Edit - I'm heading out for now but if this issue is still unresolved by the time I'm back I'll keep trying to help.

[Runenwächter]

not much time for reading, but i dont know of a sim that correctly calculates the synergy effects the taiaj provides. it helps ramping up the stacks for your instant casts very fast and therefore is pure awesomenes. please consider this in the calc

[Goregasm.]

Huh. That config is nothing near what's shown on your armory. I'd use Rawr and just import from armory and then to EnhSim but.. that still leaves me without your setup for priority, buffs, and combat parameters. And since the config that you posted has stats that don't match yours I'm going to assume that the other tabs also have a good chance of being incorrect. What are you using to import stats to EnhSim? Rawr or something different?

That being said, when I simmed the config that you posted, I got 9288 DPS. Replaced WF glyph with FS glyph and got 9326 DPS. Not sure what else to say.

Edit - I'm heading out for now but if this issue is still unresolved by the time I'm back I'll keep trying to help.

yea, in all honesty, im new to simming, ive never felt ive needed too, but it seems to give me good insight...

what i do, is i upload my toon in rawr from the WoW Armory, then i copy it, put it in Enhsim, and hit Simulate

to change glyphs, i go to Gear Details and do it through that tab...

[Butu]

not much time for reading, but i dont know of a sim that correctly calculates the synergy effects the taiaj provides. it helps ramping up the stacks for your instant casts very fast and therefore is pure awesomenes. please consider this in the calc

No. EnhSim has been proven to sim TaiaJ correctly.

To the OP: your config file has probably gone wrong at some point. Please try to load for example the config file found in the EJ BiS gear thread http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t88300-e...on_3_3_onward/ and then importing your character from Rawr.

[Deleted]

No. EnhSim has been proven to sim TaiaJ correctly.

To the OP: your config file has probably gone wrong at some point. Please try to load for example the config file found in the EJ BiS gear thread http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t88300-e...on_3_3_onward/ and then importing your character from Rawr.

There is seriously no need to do that as I made a point of revamping the config.txt file that comes with EnhSim. It might need a tweak to cope with newer priority ordering but no-one posted a ticket saying it was wrong last time I checked so the config.txt file that comes in the zip file should be up to date.

The issue might be the version he is using, without knowing the version and the config file he is using we are just taking stabs in the dark.

[Rígr]

why not just go with both tiny abom and dbw?

[necemoci]

I realy hope you are not considering rolling/needing DBW as enhancement

[Deleted]

I realy hope you are not considering rolling/needing DBW as enhancement

WTF not. Are you utterly clueless or something? Do you realise that the proc is massively more damage than the headline stat?

ArP is ok for Enhancement Shaman, the 1200 AP, 600 Agi, 600 Haste proc (1400 AP, 700 Agi, 700 haste for Heroic) however is what makes it a good trinket.

Stop fixating on the base stat for trinkets that's not why its a good trinket.