Lvling Rogue

[Uteric]

Hello!

Ok i just started lvling my 3 alt and it is a 25 lvl rogue and i was wondering what is the best spec for questing/instance lvling?

Thanks .

[Grajm]

I leveled as Subt until lvl 40, i think thats when you learn mutilate anyway, but yeah... level as subt until you can learn mutilate then swap over to assas and stick with that til 80.

[tanksfortots]

Go sub till like 60 then u should go combat if ur gonna level dungeons.... or if ur goin questwise and some dungeons go assasination and stick with that till ur geard for combat at lvl 80

[bozwell]

... . what's with leveling as sub? (soloing you mean? )

Sub is more PvP stuff... Combat > sub in leveling.
BF, AR, quicker energy recovery... .e.t.c.

You can level as sub, just never as efficiency as comb.

If you want to switch to assa sometimes, may be around lvl. 60, with better talents and such.

[Grajm]

Because sub learn hemo very early on, and you can drop most mobs to 50% with 1 ambush with heirloom gear, but at higher levels then it gets sucky for pve, yeah

[bozwell]

Because sub learn hemo very early on, and you can drop most mobs to 50% with 1 ambush with heirloom gear, but at higher levels then it gets sucky for pve, yeah

Na, you get hemo like lvl 30?

At level 30, all talents into combat > hemo in sub.

10% haste + 5 cirt + 5 dagger crit + 50% offhand dmg > sub ...

you guys never level as combat did you?

[Evolixe]

Imo.. what a loladvices here...

Combat all the way mate, itll beat muti on the quick kills and sub is a no-go in any way for levelling.

Check my offspec on the armory to look what you should be +- aiming for. Don't take the assa talents yet.. get 60 and rush to killing spree.

(armory in sig)

also,

Na, you get hemo like lvl 30?

At level 30, all talents into combat > hemo in sub.

10% haste + 5 cirt + 5 dagger crit + 50% offhand dmg > sub ...

you guys never level as combat did you?

Don't take a weapon specialisation while levelling, because you will probebly be switching weapons often (unless you use heirlooms).

[SpaceMuffinMan]

Imo.. what a loladvices here...

Combat all the way mate, itll beat muti on the quick kills and sub is a no-go in any way for levelling.

Check my offspec on the armory to look what you should be +- aiming for. Don't take the assa talents yet.. get 60 and rush to killing spree.

(armory in sig)

I started leveling a Rogue not long ago, now he's 42 and been Combat all the way and i have to agree, it's extremely easy to destroy mobs one after the other as combat.

[undyingpower]

combat all the way till 60 then mutil unless u dont like then combat till 80 sub sucks

[Evolixe]

combat all the way till 60 then mutil unless u dont like then combat till 80 sub sucks

No. Why not mutilate? It might do the highest single target non-move damage at level 80. But when you are levelling you kill targets quickly and go on the move again. This is not where muti is good at. So combat till 80.

[Zarleck]

I recently got my rogue to 42.
As the others have said, go combat. Sub requires too much positioning. Sure, you can take away 50% of a mob's health in one hit, but it requires you to be in stealth and behind the target. As combat, you can pretty much ignore stealth and just mash Sinister Strike. Mobs will die fast.

[Evolixe]

Also level first aid btw, and as i reckon you got a main.. Keep it a few levels higher then normal for you characters level. This will dramatically increase you kills/hour.

[bozwell]

Imo.. what a loladvices here...

Combat all the way mate, itll beat muti on the quick kills and sub is a no-go in any way for levelling.

Check my offspec on the armory to look what you should be +- aiming for. Don't take the assa talents yet.. get 60 and rush to killing spree.

(armory in sig)

also,

Don't take a weapon specialisation while levelling, because you will probebly be switching weapons often (unless you use heirlooms).

... .. I don't see people without a main to get some easy badges nowadays.

And dual daggers heirlooms are great as you can switch to mut at higher level if you want.

[Evolixe]

... .. I don't see people without a main to get some easy badges nowadays.

And dual daggers heirlooms are great as you can switch to mut at higher level if you want.

/facepalm

I just explained why muti is bad for levelling and yet you say this ><

[Deleted]

I'm using sub and boa gear atm, +2 points in ass. Ambush, evis should do 80%+ hp of a similar level mob.

[Evolixe]

I'm using sub and boa gear atm, +2 points in ass. Ambush, evis should do 80%+ hp of a similar level mob.

Yes, and what if you havn't got stealth? You need stealth to do that and thats why you can only go for one mob at at time effectively. While with combat there is not really a gain in using stealth. Sure.. you can garrote or cheap shot. But no high offensive damage.

Which makes combat still king.

[Grajm]

I dont think you understand about how amazing muti is for chain pulls, you dont refesh Slice n Dice, as your using evic or envenom more often than every 20 seconds, 1 stealthed to garrote is all you need to refresh hunger, and you stack combo points way better than in combat, allowing for more survivability on mobs ( 6 second stun with fast combo points) once you get into muti chain kill rotation you take mobs out in 3 hits at lvl 50+ muti muti envemon, stealth if you want for garrote, for refreshing hunger, or cheap shot if your at low health, a muti rogue can keep a mob stunned for the entire duration they kill them, able to stay at 10% hp and not take hits because mobs arnt even able to attack you is amazing for leveling

[Deleted]

I'm using sub and boa gear atm, +2 points in ass. Ambush, evis should do 80%+ hp of a similar level mob.

Stealth-mob-stealth-mob? Is it really nice to switch stealth for every mob?

Im leveling my rogue atm is 62, and i stick to combat, since i plain when i hit 80, to play combat specced into pve, and all the leveling to 80 helps me understand the spec/tallents/when to use cooldowns etc, so my advice is choose what spec you gonna play @ 80, and level that spec and learn it.


Also -> http://shadowpanther.net/leveling.htm


Good luck.

[Evolixe]

I dont think you understand about how amazing muti is for chain pulls, you dont refesh Slice n Dice, as your using evic or envenom more often than every 20 seconds, 1 stealthed to garrote is all you need to refresh hunger, and you stack combo points way better than in combat, allowing for more survivability on mobs ( 6 second stun with fast combo points) once you get into muti chain kill rotation you take mobs out in 3 hits at lvl 50+ muti muti envemon, stealth if you want for garrote, for refreshing hunger, or cheap shot if your at low health, a muti rogue can keep a mob stunned for the entire duration they kill them, able to stay at 10% hp and not take hits because mobs arnt even able to attack you is amazing for leveling

Combat: Sinister strike x1: SnD, sinister strike x(amount of times you think the mob needs before evis becomes effective): Evis. Thats it. 75sec CD on KS, combine it with blade flurry and you pwn the crap out of an elite 2 lvls higher then you. And ADRush for some quick boss dps or just to save your ass cuz you accidentially pulled too many mobs.

I bet, that if i go combat.. and you muti at a level of your choice, we take 20 targets. Take them down as quick as you can. Combat Will win.

[Deleted]

movespeed increased and stealth cd is heavily reduced in sub spec, don't see a problem with restealthing, and rogues have no real aoe to take on multiple mobs