[Resto] Need to be ICC 25 hc ready

[Aran]

Heya folks!

So i applied to a very good guild, and they are on 9/12 25 hc. Truth to be told, this char has been in hybernation for ages and I've just brought him out of it. My tank was geared enough, but they are full on those, but need a resto shamman. I picked up the challenge and desided to gear him asap zulu and see how far i'll get in a short period of time.

Armory link: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...n&cn=Aranthaur

I've desided to waste(total waste since it will be replaced fast, but meh, its worth every penny for the "get ready asap"-progress) 8.5k gold on BoE ilvl264 legs, feet and belt. I've ran heroics like there's no tomorrow to farm triumphs and get what i could. I also joined every pug i could to get the most out of my saves.

I will be getting T9 head (for the 4p bonus, can't say "No" to +5% crit on CH) and will craft 245 bracers this week. I jumped from 4.3k GS to 5.1 (flirting with 5.2) in one week.

TL,DR:
I will be attending their "off-run" to icc10 hc and I'm wondering if im geared enough to pull it off smoothly. Also, how far am I off from being just on the edge to be able to heal ICC25 hc?
Can't find any guides on stat requirement for a resto shaman in ICC 25 hc. Surely, you can heal with whatever, but its a question of how well you heal.

Any predictions (assuming im pro skillwise) on how well i might perform with the current (or described above) setup in ICC25 hc?

I will appretiate any constructive critisism and reflections on the subject. Thank you

[Araun]

4pt10 asap, shouldn't have used frosts on the cloak. t10 is king. you should be able to do icc10Hc np, with the gear you have, assuming you have the skills. depends on the other healers you run with as well, but the 20% makes up for a lot of gear.

[Deleted]

Be ready to bring mana pots! Even thou im not an shaman specialist i think that your gear is to low for ex Deathbringer Saurfang (asuming you do it with two healers)which you need insane healing for. Even thou you say your really skilled and that can get you far you still need quite some gear.

But GL getting into that guild.

/Licki Khdagar-Eu

[Teyrnon]

personally i think you might struggle to keep up with thier healers at first.

you need a lot more haste - i think 1226 is the soft cap, and a lot more SP too. try running more ToC and ToGC for drops and the uber trinket Solace of the Fallen. other than that keep on with VoA for T10 drops nd keep on with dailies for frost emblems.

give it a few weeks and you will have most of your gear at current tier level or just below rather than several Naxx items at present

[Milkcow]

Well with the current gear you have you really are not able to heal in icc25 heroic...
You are rddy to heal 10 man icc and 25 icc. But don't even think about the heroic versions, no matter how much skill you got.
Only boss(boss?) you can heal is lootship...
The damage output on heroic modes is far more then on normal modes... So keep running daily heroics, weekly raid quest for frost emblems, keep running icc10 and 25 to farm emblems and 264 gear... Upgrade your weapon asap! It will make great difference in spellpower!

[Mykk]

Go and see. It depends alot how u r going to heal and what kinda fight. BQ u cant go oom if u go then ur doing something wrong. If its heavy aoe fight ur water shield gief shitloads of mana etc but what i can tell my own shammys stats and its able to heal atleast 11/12hc
Sp 3200
Haste 1296
Mp5 (shield and solace on) 560 or something
Ub mana around 27k

Atleast what i looked ur armory u have way too low haste. Get more more more ;<. So use items which contains haste.
Mp5 there isnt any magical number for this. Myself i have 305 UB
Crit around 30%
Haste if i remember correctly around 1280-1300. But anyways i can be wrong too ^^
Sp well take what u can but dont socket it atleast until u get around 1300 haste ^^ :P

[belugysama]

You have a bit of a way to go as far as gear. But here's where you should start (from a gearing standpoint).

I've healed a few HMs on my alt shaman, whose gear is better than yours but still far from great. If you're pro, you should be able to pull your weight, you may just need to watch your mana a bit more (keep your eye on Water Shield so it doesn't fall off).

Get your 4 pc T10 as soon as possible. Its awesome. 4 pc + crafted pants as your offpiece seems to be the best combo. You will just need about 300 or so Frost Emblems (maybe less if Vault can give you the gloves). Get a new weapon, the dagger from heroic PoS will do until you can get something from ICC.

In the off ICC10 heroic run, make sure that you have replenishment. Your mana will suck without it. Otherwise, bring lots of mana potions. Since they've been nice enough to bring you on their run, you should gear up fairly quickly. :P

Edit: Ugh, what they said. I took too long to post.

[EzriEU]

In short:

ICC25 HC: You'd just be a burden to all the other healers. No matter how much skill you've got.

ICC25: Yep, get started. If you're really skilled, you might embarrass a lot of other healers, since the amount of just bad ones is ridiculously high in ICC25 PuGs.

ICC10 HC: Should work, if your healing mates outgear you and play well.

ICC10: Fire away, that's where you can easily improve your gear, most of 10normal is a joke with the 20% buff anyway. Nowadays, that's where the undergeared alts go.

[Aran]

Thanks alot for the replies. A few replies at the start of the thread were trolls, but i thank the rest alot for your replies.

Yes, according to most posts I've seen on the forums I need ~1200-1300 haste. As it looks now, its impossible without getting new better items with haste on them.

The rest of the group is skilled for sure. Im confident the other healer(s) will do his/her/their job, and possibly will have to pull my weight a little in situations where my gear is the bottleneck. I do not call myself pro, by no means im no Paragon-pro, but i consider myself skilled. I move out of fires and i keep people alive. A few years as resto helped a bit too

So basically:

ICC10 = yes
ICC10hc = maybe/yes
ICC25 = yes
ICC25hc = No way José?

edit: I topped healing on few bosses in ICC25 pug yesterday, with my peak on Rotface with over 2 mill healed over 4-5min fight (ppl failed a bit on oozes, not moving out of spray, avoiding green, etc). I was against a 5.6k lolscore resto druid, 5.2k holy paladin, and a disc priest (did not count absorbs, so im sure he creamed me here and there).

[Milkcow]

So basically:

ICC10 = yes
ICC10hc = maybe/yes
ICC25 = yes
ICC25hc = No way José?

edit: I topped healing on few bosses in ICC25 pug yesterday, with my peak on Rotface with over 2 mill healed over 4-5min fight (ppl failed a bit on oozes, not moving out of spray, avoiding green, etc). I was against a 5.6k lolscore resto druid, 5.2k holy paladin, and a disc priest (did not count absorbs, so im sure he creamed me here and there).

Yup thats about it If you are having trouble with the haste cap try to use some haste trinks, since haste > spellpower before you hit around 1300, after that you can start to stack spellpower.
Gz on the healing in icc25 But you rlly can't compare icc25 to icc25HC, its a insane difference imo...

[Kirderf]

I took the freedom to put together a BiS-list that you can obtain through money and emblem of triumphs + drops in heroic 5 mans. With this gear you can w/o a problem heal ALL the bosses in both ICC10/25 Normal. In ICC10/ICC25 Heroic you might struggle on some but you can work around most of them w/o a problem if you're the only healer who is lacking gear. We have boosted a few newly dinged healers and still cleared 9/12 Heroic every week.

http://www.wowhead.com/profile=21469340

Notes:

* I took into consideration that you'd like to have 4p-bonus even though that wouldn't be the most optimal.
* Contains the crafted cloth-parts. If you are like some people allergic to cloth just replaced them with the mail crafted parts instead.
* I included the items you already have or will get.
* I picked Shriveled Heart since it IS the best you can get as an offhand. If you would rather use a shield, stick with what you have.
* Forethought Talisman might have a nice SP-boost. But with the amount of haste in this set you want to have a nice manapool and nice mana regeneration. Hence the Tears of the Vanquished isntead of Forethought.
* Royal Dreadstone is being used in your head since it covers both a red+blue at the same time in the slot with the biggest socket bonus. That way you can pump out haste in every other slot.
* If you feel that the crafted parts/hilt will be too expensive you replace them with the following:

Legging's of Woven death: Blackened Ghoul Skin Leggings.
Hammer of Purified Flame: Surgeon's Needle.
Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers: Could not find anything suitable to replace them with apart from the bullcrap Valor of Emblem's Wrists which is complete utter shit. Rather use what you already have if so.
Ring of the Darkmender: Heartmender's Circle.

I hope this helps but I doubt it since you already have the majority of the gear! Might help someone else though!

[Aran]

I took the freedom to put together a BiS-list that you can obtain through money and emblem of triumphs + drops in heroic 5 mans. With this setup you can w/o problems heal the majority of the bsoses in ICC10/25 N/H.

http://www.wowhead.com/profile=21469340

Notes:

* Contains the crafted cloth-parts. If you are like some people allergic to cloth just replaced them with the mail crafted parts instead.
* I included the items you already have or will get.
* If you feel that the crafted parts/hilt will be too expensive you replace them with the following:
* I picked Shriveled Heart since it IS the best you can get as an offhand. If you would rather use a shield, stick with what you have.
* Forethought Talisman might have a nice SP-boost. But with the amount of haste in this set you want to have a nice manapool and nice mana regeneration. Hence the Tears of the Vanquished isntead of Forethought.
* Royal Dreadstone is being used in your head since it covers both a red+blue at the same time in the slot with the biggest socket bonus. That way you can pump out haste in every other slot.

Legging's of Woven death: Blackened Ghoul Skin Leggings.
Hammer of Purified Flame: Surgeon's Needle.
Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers: Could not find anything suitable to replace them with apart from the bullcrap Valor of Emblem's Wrists which is complete utter shit. Rather use what you already have if so.
Ring of the Darkmender: Heartmender's Circle.

I hope this helps but I doubt it since you already have the majority of the gear!

Wow! Huge thanks, m8.

I don't have the money to craft the leggings now (stupid as i was, i spent my money on the mail|mp5 version). Im not alergic to other armor types or using an offhand, so i will deffo look into it. I'll see what i can do about the gems. It feels so wasted gemming for haste only (and totally ignore sp|mp5). Nevertheless i will work on it asap zulu. Thats gonna be damn many badges hehe.

[Kirderf]

Heh

You should always keep in mind that the majority of our regen comes from crit and intellect, not mp5. Mana will probably be a problem depending on fight since you dont have any Solace trinket. But I remember myself how it was when ToC was first released. Sometimes you struggled as hell once you reached higher hastevalues. Anyway, you wont lose thaat much HPS by following gem colors. I wouldn't do it since the mp5 gain will be minimal and as stated, our biggest manareg comes from intellect (assuming you have someone with the replenishment buff) and crit, not mp5. Dont get me wrong, mp5 aint bad... just not worth gemming/enchanting for it. If it comes on gear (that has haste ofc!) it's fine.

[Shamanmatt]

Resto is my off spec but iv'e been forced into using it a fair bit more recently. Iv'e found that with the 2p tier 10 and 60 badge trinket my healing has improved a great deal.

[Smoopie]

thanks for the list i'll have to play with that some. my shaman is about to hit 80 !!

As far as legs go, how long do the crafted last for?

[Scottishpaladin]

Mate what u done in a week I dont in 2 days with my warrior. See if your server runs GDKP ICC25( assuming you have alot of gold ) and ull be geared in notime with the right drops. other than that uve not got much chance on being ready "asap" gearing takes time if done in slight moderation.

[Kirderf]

thanks for the list i'll have to play with that some. my shaman is about to hit 80 !!

As far as legs go, how long do the crafted last for?

Long?

Basically until you you have 4p-tier10 with unclean surgigal gloves (all 277) as set breaker instead. If you dont feel you that you dont want to waste another 60 emblems just go for tier legs and cloth gloves from emblems (the difference is minor but the legs will last a long time). But I will use my crafted legs as set breaker until I have upgraded My head, Shoulders and Chest and as soon as I get the last token those will be spent on tier10 legs instead of gloves. But up to that point, legs will be the best setbreaker (since there are no offpiece 277 legs that we can use).
I'm using the mail legs btw even though the cloth ones are better. I hungered for a kilt ever since Tier 7. Stupid Tier 8... Needing me to use a no-dress as a setbreaker! FFUFUFUFU

[Omarpr]

If you have skill I think you can do ICC 25 H with this gear. The healer is the class less dependant of gear. You should change as soon as possible your Intellect trinket. I know two trinkets that I have use and they are easy to get: Ephemeral Snowflake (Halls of Reflection 2nd boss) and Binding Light (3rd boss ToC 10) If you can get last one in HEROIC, better for you. You will need to learn to control your mana, at this point is better for your to use 2 mana regen trinkets, I use that and I'm right now doing ICC 25 H. I don't like having mana problems. I recommend you in large fight to use at least 2 times the Mana Tide Totem. I use It as soon as I get to 76% mana.

I hope that helps.