BiS Non icc25hc

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Hello guys, i got access to icc10(HC too, exept lich king) and icc25 norm(exept lich king). does any of you have a BiS list for that(so without 271/277 items) for a MM hunter. Thanks in advance

[Kereba]

MM?
Everything with ArP, ta da.

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Yes MM, but i would like to see a concrete list ^^

[Dhryke]

Head: Tier 10
Neck: Sindragosa 25man
Shoulders: Tier 10
Back: Emblems
Chest: Tier 10
Bracers: Gunship 25man
Gloves: Tier 10
Belt: Festergut 25man
Legs: Deathwhisper 25man
Boots: Crafted
Ring: Dreamwalker 25man
Ring: Ashen Verdict rep ring
Trinket: Heroic Deathwhisper 10man
Trinket: Saurfang 25man
Ranged Weapon: Deathwhisper 25man
Melee Weapon: Heroic Blood Princes 10man

Just what I could think of off the top of my head. You could use different weapons depending on what this brings your ArP levels to. Should be a good place to start anyways.

[sik07]

the list looks solid, the only thing i would change and this might be a personal preference, but since you have access to Sindragosa 10 HM id use the neck from there instead from 25 man.

[Dhryke]

the list looks solid, the only thing i would change and this might be a personal preference, but since you have access to Sindragosa 10 HM id use the neck from there instead from 25 man.

Very true.

I didn't go with that one simply because, some guilds that have access to HM 10 mans, don't automatically have Sindragosa killed yet.

[PBitt]

Head: Tier 10
Neck: Sindragosa 25man
Shoulders: Tier 10
Back: Emblems
Chest: Tier 10
Bracers: Gunship 25man
Gloves: Tier 10
Belt: Festergut 25man
Legs: Deathwhisper 25man
Boots: Crafted
Ring: Dreamwalker 25man
Ring: Ashen Verdict rep ring
Trinket: Heroic Deathwhisper 10man
Trinket: Saurfang 25man
Ranged Weapon: Deathwhisper 25man
Melee Weapon: Heroic Blood Princes 10man

Just what I could think of off the top of my head. You could use different weapons depending on what this brings your ArP levels to. Should be a good place to start anyways.

Change the neck as mentioned above to HM sindragosa neck, and the ranged weapon to DW 10 HC or the gun from BQL, both are better than the DW 25 weapon. Also pick up Hm 10 festergut boots if you can, they are a small dps increase over the craftables and also have more arp.

[Deleted]

Change the neck as mentioned above to HM sindragosa neck, and the ranged weapon to DW 10 HC or the gun from BQL, both are better than the DW 25 weapon. Also pick up Hm 10 festergut boots if you can, they are a small dps increase over the craftables and also have more arp.

Generally, no, the rock-steady treads will be more DPS than the fester 10man hc ones.

[Dhryke]

Change the neck as mentioned above to HM sindragosa neck, and the ranged weapon to DW 10 HC or the gun from BQL, both are better than the DW 25 weapon. Also pick up Hm 10 festergut boots if you can, they are a small dps increase over the craftables and also have more arp.

More ArP doesn't automatically mean they are better, at my gear level I have almost exactly 1400 ArP. When I get more it throws everything off balance to where if I eat ArP food I'm over the cap and if I don't, I'm under. Use femaledwarf.com for yourself, or use a real spreadsheet. They don't show as an increase for me.

[Thereign]

Generally, no, the rock-steady treads will be more DPS than the fester 10man hc ones.

Wrong, that is only when gemming agility. I see a dps increase when plugged into the spreadsheet when gemming arp, and the closer you get to the cap, the more beneficial it becomes.

[Thundercougr]

Head: Tier 10
Neck: Sindragosa 25man
Shoulders: Tier 10
Back: Emblems
Chest: Tier 10
Bracers: Gunship 25man
Gloves: Tier 10
Belt: Festergut 25man
Legs: Deathwhisper 25man
Boots: Crafted
Ring: Dreamwalker 25man
Ring: Ashen Verdict rep ring
Trinket: Heroic Deathwhisper 10man
Trinket: Saurfang 25man
Ranged Weapon: Deathwhisper 25man
Melee Weapon: Heroic Blood Princes 10man

Just what I could think of off the top of my head. You could use different weapons depending on what this brings your ArP levels to. Should be a good place to start anyways.

Everything he said is correct, except Ranged Weapon. Heroic Stakethrower (Heroic 10man BQL) is better than normal Zod's. Zod only has 1.8 more Ranged DPS, and the proc which is pretty bad for the Normal version.

[Lysah]

Everything he said is correct, except Ranged Weapon. Heroic Stakethrower (Heroic 10man BQL) is better than normal Zod's. Zod only has 1.8 more Ranged DPS, and the proc which is pretty bad for the Normal version.

I agree. The above set up is pretty much what I have, except for boots and heroic WFS (only got normal T.T). Upgrades I know I can get that aren't heroic 25 man are H-Stakethrower and H-Neglected boots.

[Thundercougr]

I agree. The above set up is pretty much what I have, except for boots and heroic WFS (only got normal T.T). Upgrades I know I can get that aren't heroic 25 man are H-Stakethrower and H-Neglected boots.

Jeez, I can't even get WFS normal. I'm still using Greatness/Scorpion. Haven't even SEEN WFS drop and I run a 10 every week. DBW is on DKP, which I should be able to get next time it drops. I'm actually gonna buy the Token tomorrow, and I guarantee I'll get both WFS and DBW afterwards. That's how my luck is...but I'll keep turning Token back in and buying it so the reimbursement timer never ends! Bahahaha.

[PBitt]

More ArP doesn't automatically mean they are better, at my gear level I have almost exactly 1400 ArP. When I get more it throws everything off balance to where if I eat ArP food I'm over the cap and if I don't, I'm under. Use femaledwarf.com for yourself, or use a real spreadsheet. They don't show as an increase for me.

I'm well aware..thats why I'm actually using a neck that doesn't have arp on it until I can get another upgrade from HM 10 man, however, in this scenario, the boots I mentioned are going to be an upgrade over rock-steady unless they are going to put you over arp cap, based on his post he doesn't need to worry about arp cap any time soon.

[Lysah]

Jeez, I can't even get WFS normal. I'm still using Greatness/Scorpion. Haven't even SEEN WFS drop and I run a 10 every week. DBW is on DKP, which I should be able to get next time it drops. I'm actually gonna buy the Token tomorrow, and I guarantee I'll get both WFS and DBW afterwards. That's how my luck is...but I'll keep turning Token back in and buying it so the reimbursement timer never ends! Bahahaha.

I've seen heroic WFS go to a looot of bad players in my time, and it never drops for me when I go (unless of course, a bad player beats me on the roll).