Has anyone completed LK25M or 10M "True Hard" mode yet?

[Shelly]

By "True Hard" I mean with the buff turned off. I'm sure the top guilds are floating about with enough heroic gear by now to at least attempt a buff-less ICC.

[Deleted]

Why should they?

[Irony]

why should they?

so that they can get nothing out of it

[Steelyorc]

Why should they?

This

There are no advantages to doing it...no upgraded drops or achievements to show you did it...and if you did...who outside of the 10 or 25 of you would know?

[dizzer83]

I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that Paragon, after successfully killing LK 25HM on a certain buff for a couple weeks, trys it 5% less, so yea, im sure there is a guild that has done it without any buff at all

[rezombied]

you cant turn the buff down, its on or off.

[zito]

This

There are no advantages to doing it...no upgraded drops or achievements to show you did it...and if you did...who outside of the 10 or 25 of you would care?

Fixed that for ya

[cannibalghoul]

why shouldnt they. bragging rights + another world first

[Anachronism]

1. Kill Lich King 25 HM with buff
2. Have someone run downstairs and disable the buff
3. Take screenshot standing around corpse
4. Post it to MMO-Champion and claim world first
5. ???
6. Profit!

[XepNes]

1. Kill Lich King 25 HM with buff
2. Have someone run downstairs and disable the buff
3. Take screenshot standing around corpse
4. Post it to MMO-Champion and claim world first
5. ???
6. Profit!

You like to spoil my plans for forum take over?! D:

[Millennía]

1. Kill Lich King 25 HM with buff
2. Have someone run downstairs and disable the buff
3. Take screenshot standing around corpse
4. Post it to MMO-Champion and claim world first
5. ???
6. Profit!

This tbh. The only way i can think of that cant be faked is a live stream of the raid.

[Abandon]

Not everyone else needs other people fawning over them to feel a sense of accomplishment.

[Shelly]

Why should they?

No reason, just whenever someone brings up the casual vs hardcore debate and LK raiding versus prior, well the whole "if you want it hard you've got hard modes and you can always turn the buff off on the final raid!"

Which kind of made me wonder if anyone had. And yeah, I think they should have an achievement for that. I mean I don't ever want to be hardcore or anything, but I think it adds a lot of flair to a server when you see folks out there getting certain achievements that by their very nature are well ... hard.

[Clockwork Pinkie]

lol, true hard, getting the achievement is true hard mode, get over it.

[Sanisbad]

No reason, just whenever someone brings up the casual vs hardcore debate and LK raiding versus prior, well the whole "if you want it hard you've got hard modes and you can always turn the buff off on the final raid!"

Which kind of made me wonder if anyone had. And yeah, I think they should have an achievement for that. I mean I don't ever want to be hardcore or anything, but I think it adds a lot of flair to a server when you see folks out there getting certain achievements that by their very nature are well ... hard.

I'm not sure what you meant by that last paragraph but I still wanted to abruptly jump in and say even with 25% buff Heroic Lich King is hard. Anyone who disagrees is either a fucking God at this game, is carried by fucking Gods at this game, or a dirty filthy liar.

[OrcsRLame]

Honestly it doesn't even matter. Paragon killed him with the 5% buff. They could easily farm him WITH the buff and use the weapons that he drops that they otherwise would not have, to more than make up for the buff.

A buffless kill would mean nothing because it would be using gear that was obtained with the buff. And if someone did a buffless kill without any heroic LK loot then it still wouldn't matter for all of the previous reasons listed in this thread. So it's double pointless.

[fendrix]

There are no advantages to doing it...no upgraded drops or achievements to show you did it...and if you did...who outside of the 10 or 25 of you would know?

What happen to playing for fun, or for a challenge? :/

[Unchainedboar]

paragon did it at 5% which is basically 0% with the gear they had

[DownButStillOut]

Why should they?

So they can increase there e-peen

[Neelix]

So they can increase there e-peen

Your avatars from exit path, right?

OT: i'd like to see it