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    Acc vs Black magic

    Well, i'm in sort of a dilemma here, so here is the situation:<--- Fire

    This is my current stats:
    2979 spell power(poor, yes i know but i'm only 264 geared)
    342 hit rating - 13.04%
    1387 Critt rating - 42,77%
    923 haste - 28,15%

    so here is the dilemma:
    Should i get the enchant "black magic" - this increases my haste by 250 for 10 seconds(and has a 35 ICD). If i do this i will also have to regem the following: change 3x "12spell power / 10 critt rating" for 3x "12 spell power / 10 hit rating".

    OR

    get the weapon enchant called "accuracy" - This increases my hit by 25(i will be capped), and also my critt by 25rating.

    here is my armory, so if you got any decent up grades i could get let me know:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...t%C3%A9rvendor

    PS: i did use RAWR, i just want some opinions!


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    Black Magic and some hit gems hands down

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    Quote Originally Posted by siaro View Post
    Well, i'm in sort of a dilemma here, so here is the situation:<--- Fire

    This is my current stats:
    2979 spell power(poor, yes i know but i'm only 264 geared)
    342 hit rating - 13.04%
    1387 Critt rating - 42,77%
    923 haste - 28,15%

    so here is the dilemma:
    Should i get the enchant "black magic" - this increases my haste by 250 for 10 seconds(and has a 35 ICD). If i do this i will also have to regem the following: change 3x "12spell power / 10 critt rating" for 3x "12 spell power / 10 hit rating".

    OR

    get the weapon enchant called "accuracy" - This increases my hit by 25(i will be capped), and also my critt by 25rating.

    here is my armory, so if you got any decent up grades i could get let me know:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...t%C3%A9rvendor

    PS: i did use RAWR, i just want some opinions!


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    Well, let's do some quick napkin maths here.
    10 sec uptime / 35 sec CD = ~28.6% uptime
    28.6% uptime * 250 haste rating = ~71.5 haste rating overall.

    So when it really comes down to it, do you want 71.5 haste or 25 hit and 25 crit?
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    well, make that 55critt/25 hit seeing that i don't have to gem 30 hit insted of 30 critt.
    Well atm, accuracy has a brilliant advantage
    However Rawr shows a roughly 30 dps change down(doing 25hit/25 critt on wep)
    Last edited by siaro; 2010-07-11 at 01:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siaro View Post
    well, make that 55critt/25 hit seeing that i don't have to gem 30 hit insted of 30 critt.
    That logic is mind blowing... I understand what you're trying to say, but that's not how math works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siaro View Post
    well, make that 55critt/25 hit seeing that i don't have to gem 30 hit insted of 30 critt.
    Well atm, accuracy has a brilliant advantage
    However Rawr shows a roughly 30 dps change down(doing 25hit/25 critt on wep)
    More like 55 crit & 25 hit versus ~71.5 haste & 30 hit (or 55 crit vs ~71.5 haste + 5 hit).

    So it's really just 55 crit versus ~71.5 haste.

    Anyway, gemming hit and using Black Magic is the better option.
    Last edited by Fojos; 2010-07-11 at 01:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rathofvol View Post
    That logic is mind blowing... I understand what you're trying to say, but that's not how math works.
    This, you do not count gems when comparing. Because gems don't suddenly become more stats when you change enchants. 55 crit/25 hit vs 30 hit/Black Magic averaging about 71.5 haste overall would be more accurate. But point is don't try to say "well if I enchant this I can regem these" It doesn't just work like that. Because you are forgetting what you lose by regemming and just adding the new stats to make the enchant look better than it really is.

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    in a gem slot, 20 hit = 20 crit.

    in your MH enchant slot, BM > precision.

    does it make sense now?
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    got it, i miscalculated some

    Anyway, i wanted opinions, not explonations!

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    get SP enchanted onto your wep, eat hit food.. or change some gems around. enchanting hit looks weak :P
    Last edited by Makaeith; 2010-07-11 at 10:42 AM.

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    yeah seriously why all the hate on hit gems? My gear that has hit is not bad, my gems that have hit are not bad. Id rather be at 17.03% hit with 5 veiled ametrine than 19% hit and a buncha potents.

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    afaik mages should never gem potent :P Reckless for orange slots all the way, even as fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsey View Post
    afaik mages should never gem potent :P Reckless for orange slots all the way, even as fire.
    You sir are wrong.
    Last edited by takolin; 2010-07-12 at 07:48 AM. Reason: typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsey View Post
    afaik mages should never gem potent :P Reckless for orange slots all the way, even as fire.
    as far as i know, you don't know much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsey View Post
    afaik mages should never gem potent :P Reckless for orange slots all the way, even as fire.
    At one point that was the generic understanding but things have changed. I would highly sugest brushing up on what gems mages should use based on spec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsey View Post
    afaik mages should never gem potent :P Reckless for orange slots all the way, even as fire.
    Until fire became better than arcane

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    All I can say is that im currently 27 hit rating under cap, beside being way under cap anyways as we dont always got a Shadow Priest... But well im doing pretty fine without if I should say it myself..

    Its like the old discussion back from Vanilla, when is crit more worth than hit..

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    You are fire so get spell power to main hand and eat hit food, it's really that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multigasm View Post
    You are fire so get spell power to main hand and eat hit food, it's really that simple.
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