Wotlk Achievements Mounts.

[zorg]

They removed the naxx meta drakes <-- plagued protodrake
They stated that at this time they wont remove the Uld drakes but will review it at a later date to prevent pure zerging the content, if this was happening they will pull them and you will probs have a month notice like wit hthe naxx drakes.

[skymind]

well after doing the ICC drake achievement and the ulduar achievement... Ulduar was far harder imo.
And i think the sanity mechanic can be just out geared... when you go in the brain and you 1shot the mobs inside... its more then easy now.

thats why i think they should remove it... or maybe yogg cloud have a chance to drop it... like the TK mount

Same for the icc drake.

Skymind Nathrezim US

[Heleon]

all of the ICC Herioc bosses and achieves as well as all of the Ulduar bosses and achieves are extremely easy as of right now and they will become completely faceroll once the level cap is 85. I think they should remove all of the meta achievement raid mounts as well as the WoTLK equivalent of the Amani War Bear, The swift horde wolf/swift alliance horse or w/e.
Tribute to Insanity was somewhat challenging and unpredictable pre full 277 gear, at 85 the fights could be zerged so fast that you could literally by pass every fight mechanic, lol Icehowl crash, hes already dead, color change on valks, you might get one, anub burrow phase, a thing of the past, anub phase 3 maybe 20 seconds long at most.

Seriously give the players who played in WoTLK and earned the mounts when they were actually a challenge something to show for their effort.

[Kooshkrusher]

Everyone keep's saying maybe Yogg could just drop it as a rare drop, what about Mimiron's Head? I remember seeing a post saying about making that the rare drop, not 100% anymore.

[Siviyél]

We 5 manned Hyjal the other day...

Just check how gear scaled in WOTLK. Basically you can walk over naxxramas. If we put some effort into those mounts at a time, they should be an unique reward for that effort, and no random should obtain it in the next expansion.

As for you whining ''oh I'd so love a frost wyrm'', you already got your normal modes. Your gearscore and simmilar shit makes us (here I mean players who clear stuff top 50, top 100) sick honestly. If you want a frost wyrm, learn to play in time so you can obtain one when you should, don't whine afterwards. Without those mounts and some titles like Light of Dawn, there basically wouldn't be visible difference between us and you, and that would make the game completely shit for us.

[Nemrod]

Same old...

What is it to you if another player has the same mount as you? How does it affect you in any way?
Right, it doesn't.

[anaxie]

what do you guys think about the the Wotlk mount (Ulduar/ICC achivement mount) in cata should we still be able to get or just remove em from the game ?

I think they should remove it... like the ZA bear. Because even if there will be more amazing mount in cata lets say my fav mount ever is the 25man ulduar proto... we'll prolly be able to 5man this place at lvl 85... i just dont think they should give that kind of mount to everyone in the game

No the're not hard to get now. Invincible and Mims head becoming harder to get then ashes is the acceptable change. Everything is going as planned. The Dragons are not impressive except for the Black Proto which is already gone. /hug immortal.

[Spartanoble]

should be removed since it'll be faceroll to get

[Deleted]

Should keep them.

100% Mounts were "Hard" to get in Classic WoW and you can still buy them now.

I don't see any reason, why remove them, really.

[Greevir]

Last I read (a blue post somewhere) Mim's Head would be made a rare drop and the Achievement drakes and such would still be in the game in the same form they are now. They even said they don't mind the fact that ppl will be capable of facerolling the content to get them. They say the fact that the people who earned them earlier still had the advantage of getting them early and there's no reason to remove them. Looking up the post now but since I can't link yet... Grrrr! I'll put it up here somehow.

Found it. It's from Ghostcrawler on the US - Cataclysm forums:
forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25578319313&postId=256239864301&sid=1#26

I can't link yet, but i'm sure you guys can figure it out.

[Nesingwary-Eliada]

Don't care about the mounts but would like the titles to be removed. The only title that makes sense to keep there is Kingslayer because it signifies such a major lore event. But Starcaller, Twilight Vanquisher, of the Nightfall, Immortal, Undying, Herald of the Titans, Champion of Ulduar etc, etc, etc. should all be gone.

Just my opinion though =P.

[Sufferr]

Don't care about the mounts but would like the titles to be removed. The only title that makes sense to keep there is Kingslayer because it signifies such a major lore event. But Starcaller, Twilight Vanquisher, of the Nightfall, Immortal, Undying, Herald of the Titans, Champion of Ulduar etc, etc, etc. should all be gone.

Just my opinion though =P.

and by "gone" u mean unobtainable right?

[Frumpy Frumpy Frak]

If you had it when it was rare good for you. Soon everyone will get it and I couldn't be happier.

[Cema]

I have 121 mounts I have ulduar meta achievements protodrakeS and I think I'll get the wyrms soon enough but I don't really mind if the mounts stay

But please Blizzard remove all the titles. I was really pissed when ppl got "Hand of Adal" after the ZOMFG NERF. I don't want to see people getting things like "Light of Dawn" or "Death Demise" at lvl 85

[Nesingwary-Eliada]

and by "gone" u mean unobtainable right?

No I mean gone as in nobody has them anymore. Completely removed from the game as if they never existed.

/sarcasm

[DocQuantum]

I'd vote to keep them in... but I wouldn't be butthurt if they were no longer available.

Some of 'em will still take some level of effort (though nowhere NEAR the same as "at gear"). I think the one blue post was pretty spot on, though (too lazy to go look for it): essentially said that folks that got it at content looked good at the time, and were free to laugh at folks that didn't get it until a few tiers later, especially since those that got it at content were probably riding around on the NEW awesome mount.

Besides, what if you want your new reroll goblin rogue to have an ulduar drake? (Without leveling a rogue now, and race changing: a true reroll that experiences the goblin starting area.)

[In Ogres We Trust]

They removed the naxx meta drakes <-- plagued protodrake
They stated that at this time they wont remove the Uld drakes but will review it at a later date to prevent pure zerging the content, if this was happening they will pull them and you will probs have a month notice like wit hthe naxx drakes.

They never stated that. I don't evefn know where you're getting your info from, but you need to stop reading or listening to them. Blizzard has stated that they plan to make the 100% drop mounts (Black Drake, Mimi's Head, et cetera) have a reduced drop rate to somewhere around the level of the Phoenix Mount. Other than that, they clearly stated that they had zero issues with the reward mounts and people going back to farm them if you take the time to earn the achievements. Think about this for a minute.

---------- Post added 2010-07-22 at 03:52 AM ----------

We 5 manned Hyjal the other day...

Just check how gear scaled in WOTLK. Basically you can walk over naxxramas. If we put some effort into those mounts at a time, they should be an unique reward for that effort, and no random should obtain it in the next expansion.

As for you whining ''oh I'd so love a frost wyrm'', you already got your normal modes. Your gearscore and simmilar shit makes us (here I mean players who clear stuff top 50, top 100) sick honestly. If you want a frost wyrm, learn to play in time so you can obtain one when you should, don't whine afterwards. Without those mounts and some titles like Light of Dawn, there basically wouldn't be visible difference between us and you, and that would make the game completely shit for us.

I seriously doubt you're in a top 100 guild. I see people like you on the forums all the time. The fact remains that nobody cares about the old content. I don't care if someone spends the time to go back and farm achievements, mounts, titles, whatever. In fact, they should restore the mounts, titles, and pets that they've already removed in the game. Oh my god, somebody went back and farmed the Warglaives in WotLK instead of earning them in BC. Oh my god, I went back and farmed the WotLK titles, achievements, and mounts on my new alt in Cataclysm after doing it on my current main. Do you see the logic? Nobody cares except for losers who want to QQ over something trivial to stroke their epeen. I had Hand of Adal, et cetera on my priest in BC. I rerolled in WotLK. Does that mean I suck because I don't have a title or somebody else has a title? No. Stupid logic is stupid.

---------- Post added 2010-07-22 at 03:57 AM ----------

I have 121 mounts I have ulduar meta achievements protodrakeS and I think I'll get the wyrms soon enough but I don't really mind if the mounts stay

But please Blizzard remove all the titles. I was really pissed when ppl got "Hand of Adal" after the ZOMFG NERF. I don't want to see people getting things like "Light of Dawn" or "Death Demise" at lvl 85

Nobody cares about this. If you want to stroke your epeen then put on some porn and have at it. Fact remains that it doesn't matter if someone goes back and reearns the titles, mounts, pets, et cetera on a different toon, It doesn't effect your gameplay in the least. If you want to remove these items, then make every thing Bind on Account for players. I like the frostwyrm, why in the hell should I be refused the ability to get the mount when I reroll come Cataclysm? In fact, restore all the items that have been removed.

[DocQuantum]

Another thought to throw into this discussion: if I were a Blizzard developer who'd spent time designing (yet another) mount, I'd rather folks were still able to get it later - even if it's not "worth as much" any more.

As it's been said so many times before, if you got the mount while it was hard, you got to ride it as a "look at how cool I am" mount. If you waited until later (such as farming the Ulduar drakes with ICC gear), you can still ride it... but it's no longer a "cool" mount. When there is some fancy new T11 heroic modes meta achievement mount, people really won't be impressed by your ICC mount.

[Hardcream]

Doesn't bother me one way or another. They won't be the cool mount to ride in Cataclysm so I can assure you that I would rather ride in a goblin balloon then an old proto-drake. Maybe my black proto since it is removed, but still the new raid mounts will be much more interesting to rock out.

[Tragopan]

I hope they do not remove these things in Cataclysm. Still pissed they removed the bear. To the people whom could not get these things in their prime it is a way to go back and experience old content and get the mount you wanted because you liked the way it looked.

To the people whom do it just for prestige.. what does it matter? There is always more prestige to be had.