Originally Posted by
det
Overall much harder raids? Well..what does that mean really? Raids "might" feel easy to people because they can do them in 25 man gear but on 10 man normal and "Bang"...there..I killed the LK therefor raids are easy. And I grinded heroics for my gear so I can join the endgame.
If that is your mindset, you are looking at a totally different system, kind of like Classic or most of TBC was..and then you are putting your head in the sand, because Blizzard is all over the place telling people that it is in their eyes an outdated system (and you would feel that way too, if you ..let us say had an accident, spend 5 months in the hospital and want to go back raiding with your build..but..tut tut..we have that system that you asked for in place, no end game content for you, back to grinding up the progression chain and gl finding a guild that does it. Off you go, joining a backwater guild)
Go ahead..you can still play that game. Even now. Say you take on a new recruit - How about you make it MANDATORY that the guy goes with YOUR GUILD for 2 weeks to Naxx, then 2 weeks Ulduar and then 2 weeks ToTC to "learn the ropes". You stop raiding ICC in that time, because that is how ppl did it in the good olde progression times. Hey..you liked that so much didn't you? Sure, you don't need to do it for the gear anymore..then do it because it was so awesome back then.
Now back to the "overall harder raids". The hard fights are and were still there, stop fooling yourself. Freya +3, Lose your Illusion, Firefighter, That cache was rare, Vexx with the Animus, Yogg +3,2,1,0? Levi +4? Alagalon? Anub HM, hell..even NB hardmode? LD, Saurfang, PP, Sindra, LK there are / were STILL hard fights. They were hard fights when the content was current, but ofc now you either outgear it or you have a cozy 25% buff..and I am not sure your guild could NOW kill LK 25m hard, PP 25 man hard or Sindra 25 man hard. I raise you one further..how about showing me you did Anub 25 man hard? How about Yogg +0..that will even defy ppl in today's gear? Herald of the titans to prove you can beat reall tough fights WITHOUT outgearing them? Just so we don't get this "1 fight doesn't save an expansion" bs.