Boring Ret Interrupt

[FuriousD]

Was anybody else hoping that since they gave kitties and bears a cool mechanic on top their interrupt maybe rets would get something neat too?

I'm not gonna lie, as it currently stands, ret looks pretty boring. I'm not going to comment on whether its going to be good or not, I just think the class looks like it got taken to pieces and not put back together very well.

[Rend]

Isnt holy power not cool enough? im not even a paladin and i think thats pretty cool...

[conaan]

heres the story, rets ask for interrupt, plain old interrupt, they get it, someone complains its too plain

[Deleted]

WOW... is a ret paladin truely not happy with the cata changes? you lose cleanse, you get burst + interrupt. Thats a pretty strong buff, now you can finally play as a main DPS who poses a threat in arena? be happy.

---------- Post added 2010-07-21 at 08:45 PM ----------

heres the story, rets ask for interrupt, plain old interrupt, they get it, someone complains its too plain

lol'd thanks

[Rhaenis]

Seriously, OP needs to be slapped.

I was going to make a "ZOMG INTERRUPT" thread, I was so happy...but the site was down.

The other changes are obviously extremely rough right now, so to say "they didn't put it back together very well" is jumping the gun a little. The overall idea is very slick.

-CS to build Holy Power (1s CD??? sounds crazy but interesting)
-Judge as normal
-Choose to release Holy Power on Divine Storm (AoE) or Templar's Verdict (Single Target) for big damage
-Exorcism as normal
-Holy Wrath for AoE packs

And then all the burst CDs they added/tweaked:

-Pop Zealotry for 3HP stacks per CS
-Pop Avenging Wrath for +damage and HoW regardless of target health
-Pop Inquisition for +30% holy damage

Sounds crazy to me.

Not to mention getting +20% haste buff (WF/Icy Talons) or the huge buff to Judgements of the Wise (40% vs. 25% base mana back on Judge) or the extra -1s off Judgements that wasn't there before.

The only change I don't like is losing instant FoL/HL from Art of War...

[Sallissa]

I get the impression that Crusader Strike is gonna have a bigger base cooldown in cata tbh
I imagine that with the talent it'll end up about the same as it is now, maybe a bit longer considering it'll be used to build holy power. I don't think Blizz plans on that being really quick to do, otherwise Templar's Verdict is gonna end up silly

[Isadora985]

Seriously, OP needs to be slapped.

I was going to make a "ZOMG INTERRUPT" thread, I was so happy...but the site was down.

The other changes are obviously extremely rough right now, so to say "they didn't put it back together very well" is jumping the gun a little. The overall idea is very slick.

-CS to build Holy Power (1s CD??? sounds crazy but interesting)
-Judge as normal
-Choose to release Holy Power on Divine Storm (AoE) or Templar's Verdict (Single Target) for big damage
-Exorcism as normal
-Holy Wrath for AoE packs

And then all the burst CDs they added/tweaked:

-Pop Zealotry for 3HP stacks per CS
-Pop Avenging Wrath for +damage and HoW regardless of target health
-Pop Inquisition for +30% holy damage

Sounds crazy to me.

Not to mention getting +20% haste buff (WF/Icy Talons) or the huge buff to Judgements of the Wise (40% vs. 25% base mana back on Judge) or the extra -1s off Judgements that wasn't there before.

The only change I don't like is losing instant FoL/HL from Art of War...

But having a plain ole interrupt overshadows all the positives obviously.

[Meracalis]

OP should be pummeled. Ret changes look awesome.

[Merlinsback]

Can someone link the interrupt please... I didn't see it in the pally update thread...

[Xeraluin]

an interrupt is boring, that's the way it should be.

[Orthius]

OP should be pummeled. Ret changes look awesome.

Personally I think he should be
*shades*
Rebuked
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah

On a more serious note, I may actually play my ret pally in cataclysm, the changes look awesome.

[chelmo]

i love it that ret has an interrupt, but i hate u have to skill it, cuz i dont know if a pve ret would take it considering the other options u have

[icecreamtruck]

paladins are always the class QQing over everything. you got your interrupt, and now you complain that its too boring... seriously

[nosoup4crr]

i think the ret changes are great, both in terms of novelty and pragmatism. The changes they've gotten will make them more viable for arena. And their playstyle will feel pretty unique.

[FuriousD]

I don't think all the op needs to be slapped comments are necessarily accurate.

I haven't been a ret paladin for that long, but the things I love about the class are the defensive and support roles I could play while being a dps in arena.

I feel that adding a standard interupt makes us more like everybody else, especially when they just gave ferals a cooler one.
I think holy power is basically a rogue with only 3 combo points.
Apparently ret doesn't have cleanse anymore? if so this totally devastates the current playstyle in my eyes.
Loss of instant self heals has got to be a huge survivability nerf.
Fortunately its beta and I'm probably poorly informed so perhaps I'm just being pessimistic.

And just to be clear: I'm not QQing, hell ret might be more powerful than ever. I'm just saying that although they are putting forth a lot of changes with great potential, I fear the ret paladin might be less unique in many of the ways that in my opinion make it good. But apparently people disagree =P

[Duncanîdaho]

I think holy power is basically a rogue with only 3 combo points.

Except you use two handed weapons for DPS, and you still use mana, and you wear plate and you dont have stealth. But yes exactly like a rogue :P. Go roll a rogue if you think playing a pally with holy power is the same as playing a rogue.

[FuriousD]

alright, I think holy power is virtually a rogue combo points mechanic. Happy?
Because I clearly thought all those other things right?

[jenseits]

I don't think all the op needs to be slapped comments are necessarily accurate.

I haven't been a ret paladin for that long, but the things I love about the class are the defensive and support roles I could play while being a dps in arena.

I feel that adding a standard interupt makes us more like everybody else, especially when they just gave ferals a cooler one.
I think holy power is basically a rogue with only 3 combo points.
Apparently ret doesn't have cleanse anymore? if so this totally devastates the current playstyle in my eyes.
Loss of instant self heals has got to be a huge survivability nerf.
Fortunately its beta and I'm probably poorly informed so perhaps I'm just being pessimistic.

And just to be clear: I'm not QQing, hell ret might be more powerful than ever. I'm just saying that although they are putting forth a lot of changes with great potential, I fear the ret paladin might be less unique in many of the ways that in my opinion make it good. But apparently people disagree =P

Yes you're in the minority in this case.

I can't stand people saying it's homoginization for us to have basic melee tools. I personally couldn't care less if someone else has it, it's a vital tool and i HATE when a boss gets off a cast that could be interrupted and i can't do shit because i don't have anything.

If homoginization means we are actually effective in combat in our specified role as an OFFENSIVE DPS SPEC, then bring it on. I'm secure enough that i'm not worried about being "lost in the crowd, no longer different" because i know i'm a paladin, and no number of copied abilities will change that.


And the OP needs slapped

[Melonberry]

Fine, ret doesn't get an interrupt, wish granted.

Why do people qq when they get buffed? Seriously...

[damntree]

i think the ret changes are great, both in terms of novelty and pragmatism. The changes they've gotten will make them more viable for arena. And their playstyle will feel pretty unique.

So, you lost cleanse, wings and freedom have no dispel resistance, you lost -50% disarm duration off PoJ, lost art of war heal and gained a melee interrupt. And you think ret became more viable?