Fel orcs joining the horde too?

[Hype]

Nice find, going to check it myself right now!

[Jaitee]

to those who said they arnt a fel orc because of teh lack of spikes there are several stages of fel orcism the first stage is the red skin if they are subject to demon blood for longer they get spikes on their body and end up with bodies like they ahve been doing more roids than humanly possible

[Svengis]

". The most prominent side effect of this blood haze is a deep red discoloration of the flesh..." quoted from Wowwiki. Red orcs are Fel Orcs, with our without spikes fangs or w/e
According to wowwiki the Dragonmaw is one of the corrupted clans, and since they're joining the horde it's not really weird at all.

[Magnett]

Concerning the people who say they look like normal Orcs: I can understand colour blindness, but where the hell did you level after 60?

Besides what other people already said about the different stages of Fel Orcness, the regular Fel Orc model doesn't support helms. Yeah, go figure. Every Fel Orc you see with any kind of helm is actually just a regular Orc model (no spikes, no tusks, no anything) with a red skin, just like the NPCs in the OP.

http://cata.wowhead.com/npc=19411
http://cata.wowhead.com/npc=16925
http://cata.wowhead.com/npc=19410

Some examples.

Another interesting thing is the massive Orc leading the Horde airship in Gilneas. He looks like Gurtogg Bloodboil but green. That can't be natural.

[Lord Cenarius]

Who said Fel Orcs can't try to redeem themselves? Had the Mag'har acted this way they would have never joined the Horde.

[Deleted]

Fel orcs were formerly led by Kargath Bladefist, Magtheridon and/or Illidan. Now all those guys are dead lorewise.

So, it would make sense for a part of the fel orcs that still remained sane to join the horde. These red ones are probably not too different from the green orcs: the spiky ones are probably beyond saving.

[Noomz]

I'm sure Garrosh has enough honor and sense to make sure such dishonorable and untrustworthy things as Fel Orcs don't join the Horde.

The Dragonmaw are something else in a sense.

[Cluck]

There were actually at least some Fel Orcs forced into becoming one of those. There's imprisoned Mag'har in some parts of the Blood Furnace, and I assume they aren't there for a nice guided tour. Chances are that it's been long enough that they're starting to revert back to normal Orcs (As in they're merely easily angered, as opposed to constantly angered), but they still have the skin color.

Or it's just a texture bug. One of the two.

[Lordwaus]

btw this is what the Orcs at Dragonmaw port say:





Ornak(Tauren), Orgrimmar:
Negotiations aren’t going well, Syrcorax. The Dragonmaw are not yet free orcs.
Somehow, we MUST get them to join the Horde!
Let me know if you need transport back to the fleet.

Dragonmaw Fel Enforcer(Fel Orc):
Warchief Mor’ghor runs the show here. Don’t forget it!
The fury! The power! I have never felt so strong in all my life.
Soon. ALL the Dragonmaw will feel as I do.

Go ahead, tauren. Give me an excuse.


Gorthul, Dragonmaw Flight Master(Grey Orc):
I can’t help you, druid. Warchief Mor’ghor would have me executed
if I allowed the Horde to use one of our wind riders.
Some day he’ll get what’s coming to him…


Dragonmaw Blacksmith(Grey Orc):
I have nothing I’m allowed to sell to you.

My goods aren’t for sale to the Horde. Don’t like it? Take it up with the Warchief!
Warchief Mor’ghor ordered us not to do buisness with the Horde.
<The merchant spits on the ground, infuriated, but refuses to speak
any more on the subject.>
Go away, I don’t want the Warchief to find out I’ve been talking to
the Horde.

Gregor, Dragonmaw Medicine Man(Grey Orc):
We Dragonmaw have seen so much suffreing…
our defeat at Grim Batol… the loss of so many great warriors
in Outland… and now incursions from Twilight’s Hammer.
I sometimes wonder if we will ever be great again. But
younglings like Zaela, they give this old heap of bones some hope.



I smell an epic quest chain where you have to kill this Warchief Mor’ghor and all the other fel orcs. To free the grey/black ones

[Hype]

Went to look myself just to see if maybe it was just color of the zone/poor quality.

[Rainbow Thunder]

I smell an epic quest chain where you have to kill this Warchief Mor’ghor and all the other fel orcs. To free the grey/black ones

Bwah I liked Mor'Ghor he was nice to me when I did my dailies.

Except for that one time where he tried to kil- wait a minute, Mor'Ghors a warchief now? Good for him.

[Magnett]

I smell an epic quest chain where you have to kill this Warchief Mor’ghor and all the other fel orcs. To free the grey/black ones

I think I get it. The Dragonmaw in Azeroth (which apparently are grey now, strange as that used to be Blackrock only) are under tyranny from the Fel Dragonmaw from Outland (who probably fled when Illidan was killed), hence the Enforcers. In case someone doesn't remember him, Mor'ghor was the leader of the Dragonmaw back in Netherwing Ledge. It's a bit odd though, because the last quest implied Illidan would kill him.

Anyway, apparently the Fel Dragonmaw want to turn all Dragonmaw into Fel Orcs? (where'd they get the blood?) So the Tauren, with their usual carebearism, want to "free" them and find a place for them in the Horde. That's what I could gather.

[Deleted]

Garrosh is really embracing the bad history of the Horde, now is he? First Alexstrasza's prison guards, and now the most vile orcs around, those who continued the genocide on the Draenei long after the end of the Second War.

Garrosh might be changing, but he is still racing at top speed down the dark path Saurfang threatened him with.

edit: Bah, that's what I get for not reading all the posts. Nice find still, and looks like a very nice questline for the horde and the orcs in particular. Sheds some light on post-Illidan Outland.

[deathmetalzf]

This is very interesting and strange at the same time.

[Rainbow Thunder]

So Blizzard is actually messing around with Outland quests?

[Linkedblade]

Why are they still red if we killed the source of their corruption? When Grom killed Mannoroth the red skins turned green. So, wouldn't the same be for these clans as well?

INCOMING retcon ><

[Wells]

Why are they still red if we killed the source of their corruption? When Grom killed Mannoroth the red skins turned green. So, wouldn't the same be for these clans as well?

INCOMING retcon ><

This is a prime example of someone taking the lore too seriously with too much detail.

[Maximus Testiculos]

First the valkyrs ,then fel orcs?

[JohnnyTKF]

Whoa, there's one thing I don't get, in the Dark Portal pics, where the hell are the Alliance guards? Cause if Horde controlled it they would've obliterated the Human commander there.

[Mandible]

They all went to Swamps of Sorrow.