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    Darkshore for Worgen and Night Elves?

    Q. Who will be using this zone (what levels/factions)?

    A. Darkshore is designed for Alliance players, primarily night elves and worgen, from level 11 through 20.
    From the latest Q&A.. I'm confused on two fronts:

    1. I expected the Worgen to be using a zone for the 11-20 range on the same Continent as their starting zone, but oh well, I see no reason a Worgen wouldn't want to go to Dark Shore either.

    2. Draenei? Hello? Anyone remember them? Dark Shore is their first stop after getting away from their original island. I realize they can hit well over 11 on their island, but then again, the Worgen seem fully capable of hitting more than 11 from what I've seen Beta vids of the areas in and around their starting zone. I also realize they can take a boat right after getting to Dark Shore, it's still weird.

    It's hardly a big issue, it's not an issue at all really, but.. Draenei? Anyone remember them?

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    there adjusting beta numbers for the starting zone in the worgen area

    they will eventually just be roughly lvl 12 instead of 14/15 when they hit darkshore

    its being balanced out

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    oh my god she/he/it speaks the thruth! Draenei will most likely be seen in darkshore aswell but because blizz seem to forget about them every now and then (like new class choises) im not surprised : P
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    The starting draenei zone goes to 20 though.
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    Draenei have Bloodmyst for 11 - 20ish
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    Worgen do indeed share zone with the night elves in that level range. I think Azshara became a lowbie zone for the Horde partly to balance out the number of zones both factions have in that level range and partly because it is a kind of pathetic zone questwise on live.

    First thing you do after the Worgen chain is to hop onto a ship to Darnassus where their new hangout is so it seems like the logical place to go. :-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dairios View Post
    Draenei have Bloodmyst for 11 - 20ish
    Being retconned into existence and having half of one expansion devoted to them isn't enough, the draenei need another expansion!

    Cater to draenei entitlement Blizzard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonberry View Post
    The starting draenei zone goes to 20 though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dairios View Post
    Draenei have Bloodmyst for 11 - 20ish
    It's as if I didn't bring that up.. oh wait:

    Dark Shore is their first stop after getting away from their original island. I realize they can hit well over 11 on their island,
    ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Garenzo View Post
    Worgen do indeed share zone with the night elves in that level range. I think Azshara became a lowbie zone for the Horde partly to balance out the number of zones both factions have in that level range and partly because it is a kind of pathetic zone questwise on live.

    First thing you do after the Worgen chain is to hop onto a ship to Darnassus where their new hangout is so it seems like the logical place to go. :-p
    It's an absolutely strange decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Being retconned into existence and having half of one expansion devoted to them isn't enough, the draenei need another expansion!

    Cater to draenei entitlement Blizzard!
    Cater to Draenei entitlement? You mean being almost completely forgotten about post-BC and the class issue in Cata? Blood Elves haven't been forgotten about post-BC and there's no Cata class issue for them. By your logic both the BC races should have any race building at all. Blood Elves and other races continue to get race building. Draenei have been standing still since BC.

    I play Horde, and Undead. If this seems strange to me it definitely should seem strange to people that actually play Alliance and Draenei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple View Post
    It's an absolutely strange decision.
    The alliance that the Night Elves have with the Worgen are the entire reason the Worgen are joining the Alliance (not to mention why Worgen practice druidism). Not sure what's so strange about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Being retconned into existence and having half of one expansion devoted to them isn't enough, the draenei need another expansion!

    Cater to draenei entitlement Blizzard!
    it wasnt a major retcon it was minor which added alot more story archs.... OMG THE ERADAR DIDNT CURROPT SARGARAS IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND OOOH FUCK! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THE DREADLORDS ALONE MADE SARG EVIL!!! IMPOSSIBLE

    they barly had any of tbc to themselves
    damned b elves stole the spot light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eltrollo View Post
    there adjusting beta numbers for the starting zone in the worgen area

    they will eventually just be roughly lvl 12 instead of 14/15 when they hit darkshore

    its being balanced out
    It'll be tweaked so you hit Darkshore at 12. The starter mobs will be 10-11 so by the time you get 13 you should be on 11-12 mobs.

    I'm not sure where I want to level yet. Darkshore seems interesting and convenient but Westfall.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple View Post
    From the latest Q&A.. I'm confused on two fronts:

    1. I expected the Worgen to be using a zone for the 11-20 range on the same Continent as their starting zone, but oh well, I see no reason a Worgen wouldn't want to go to Dark Shore either.

    2. Draenei? Hello? Anyone remember them? Dark Shore is their first stop after getting away from their original island. I realize they can hit well over 11 on their island, but then again, the Worgen seem fully capable of hitting more than 11 from what I've seen Beta vids of the areas in and around their starting zone. I also realize they can take a boat right after getting to Dark Shore, it's still weird.

    It's hardly a big issue, it's not an issue at all really, but.. Draenei? Anyone remember them?
    1. It wouldn't be too difficult for a Worgen to immediately hop a boat to Stormwind and run over to Westfall if they wanted to. Darkshore is simply where their breadcrumbs lead since they are rescued by the Night Elves at the end of their starting experience.

    2. Dreaeni spend the 10-20 level range on Bloodmyst Isle, very few Draenei ever opted to level in Darkshore instead.
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    Because nothing involving the draenei has happened!

    SHOCKING! I KNOW!

    It's almost like they were never on this planet before and just crash landed recently or something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falrinn View Post
    1. It wouldn't be too difficult for a Worgen to immediately hop a boat to Stormwind and run over to Westfall if they wanted to. Darkshore is simply where their breadcrumbs lead since they are rescued by the Night Elves at the end of their starting experience.

    2. Dreaeni spend the 10-20 level range on Bloodmyst Isle, very few Draenei ever opted to level in Darkshore instead.
    How's this going to work anyway? Have they said anything about the boat to Stormwind? Auberdine is gone and Lor'danel doesn't look like it can support 3 ships, or do they all go to Ru'theran now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    The alliance that the Night Elves have with the Worgen are the entire reason the Worgen are joining the Alliance (not to mention why Worgen practice druidism). Not sure what's so strange about it.
    Shipping out half way around the world to play with the Night Elves only makes sense if you're a Druid. Otherwise it makes more sense for Worgen zones to exist in areas closer to what they're familiar with, while occasional Night Elf representatives would be around as global NPCs. Especially with the Auberdine port for ships being entirely destroyed as far as we know..

    Quote Originally Posted by Falrinn View Post
    2. Dreaeni spend the 10-20 level range on Bloodmyst Isle, very few Draenei ever opted to level in Darkshore instead.
    That's because Bloodmyst was new at the time, and most people had likely done the Dark Shore quests to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Because nothing involving the draenei has happened!

    SHOCKING! I KNOW!

    It's almost like they were never on this planet before and just crash landed recently or something!
    Two expansions ago as of Cataclysm. They've been standing still since BC. Blood Elves have continued to get lore and content and class updates for Cata. Draenei have stood still.

    No race of people would do almost nothing for that length of time. The Lich King would have effected everyone, and the Cataclysm certainly effects everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple View Post
    Shipping out half way around the world to play with the Night Elves only makes sense if you're a Druid. Otherwise it makes more sense for Worgen zones to surround their starter, with occasional Night Elf representatives.
    It doesn't not make sense either. There's no other space on the EK around Gilneas that they can magically turn into a specific Worgen 11-20 area. It actually makes MORE sense to me to get on a boat rather than walk allll the way down to Dun Morogh or Westfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azalu View Post
    How's this going to work anyway? Have they said anything about the boat to Stormwind? Auberdine is gone and Lor'danel doesn't look like it can support 3 ships, or do they all go to Ru'theran now?
    Yeah, Rut'theran is the new port.

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    Gilneas will be a pvp area anyways, so they can't stay there. And Silverpine Forest is more for UD.

    The "starting zone"(or better, their starting phasing) ends with you evacuating/exiling to Teldrasil with the NE, since Gilneas is overran by Undead throwing the Plague everywhere.

    Thus, Darkshore becomes the logical place for Worgen to level at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple View Post
    Shipping out half way around the world to play with the Night Elves only makes sense if you're a Druid. Otherwise it makes more sense for Worgen zones to surround their starter, with occasional Night Elf representatives. Especially with the Auberdine port for ships being entirely destroyed as far as we know..
    Apart from the bit where the Night Elves show up at the end of the Worgen starter zone to help them. It's Night Elf ships that they board

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple View Post
    Shipping out half way around the world to play with the Night Elves only makes sense if you're a Druid. Otherwise it makes more sense for Worgen zones to surround their starter, with occasional Night Elf representatives. Especially with the Auberdine port for ships being entirely destroyed as far as we know..
    It's because the Night Elves are the ones that helps on the Gilnean Exile. Teldrassil is their new home.

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