Lore question! ASPECTS

[Lore Lord]

Besides, the Old Gods are more powerful than the Dragon Aspects anyway.

This doesn't mean much. A jailer doesn't need to be stronger than their prisoner to make sure nothing fishy is happening inside the prison. When facing an old god at full power, sure, an aspect would lose but they can certainly help make sure the old gods don't get out to begin with.

Of course the lore doesn't state a connection so its all speculation and your free to believe what you want. But I don't think the difference in power levels makes for a very good case.

[billymayz]

first off, old gods die, since they are so entwined to azeroth, it ceases to exist, think of it like a bunch of roots of a plant intertwining with a rock, to the point if you kill the plant and remove the roots, the rock will fall apart.

secondly,
deathwing was/is the aspect of the earth. this put him on the land. meaning he was closest to the old gods realm to be warped. because they were trapped in the earth. if they put them in the emerald dream, ysera probably would be the one trippin out atm.

just how i see it
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[kekeoki]

You mean like The One?

rofl i know that movie
and yeah i was just wondering from what I read now my statment was incorrect

[mynameisjona]

Well technically Neltharion the Earthbinder (Deathwing) was left to watch over the world to make sure no one hurts the planet itself. He was supposed to keep the world as close as possible to it's Emerald Dream cousin.

We aren't going to kill all the aspects. In fact 4 of the original 5 remain alive, and Malygos, whom we adventurers killed, is being replaced by his son Kalecgos [Possible Speculation].

Neltharion want to all ends to help protect the planet, even going as far to create the Dragon Soul, which was formed in a metal disc, with power from all of the aspects. But as it would go Neltharion would slip into madness, and use the Dragon Soul on everyone at the end of the War of the Ancients, killing the entire Blue Flight except Malygos, drinving Malygos into a depressed manic mental state. Neltharion was corrupted by the Old Gods, which is why Neltharion and Ragnaros are teaming up, they are both controlled by the Old Gods. I doubt that Alexstrasza, Nozdormu, or Ysera will fall to the Old Gods, even so a member of their brood could stand up and take their place.

Now the Old Gods were inprisoned by the Titans. Eventually their cells have weakened and they have enough power to control some mortals, who then find more and so on. C'thun used his power to create the Twilight Cult who helped to free him, but we adventures kill him before he did any large form of damage to the planet. Yogg'saron we stopped before his influence spread to any sentient life beyond Furbolgs.

Actually I think by killing the Old Gods physical forms we are actually releasing them from their true prison, which is their physical form. One titan has actually been corrupted by the Old Gods, that one being Sargeras who just happens to be the leader of the Burning Legion.

Here is Azerothian Pantheon:

Old Gods/Titans > Dragon Aspects > Elementals > Demigods > Mortal Races

So really Sargeras would be easy to take down, he's only a single titan, if we had backup we could take him down, his Legion consists of nothing but mortal races. In Ulduar, we has Titan Backing against and Old God, and that should make Deathwing sound like an easy fight.

Sorry to say but just about all that you said is incorrect. Sargeras was not corrupted by the Old Gods, he was driven to madness because of demons. This has been speculated to but if it were so then the Old Gods wouldn't have to create these huge plans to attract the attention of Sargeras and the Legion. As for Deathwing, he merely thought about using the Demon Soul to protect from the Legion and later used it, or tried to, to rule over the other races. Malygos was not the only Blue dragon left, however most of the flight did die off. And finally, the Old Gods do exist in the physical realm, the prisons are, quite literally, the burying deep underground by the Titans and the superstructure surrounding that hole. [Note: On the last point, we did not have Titan backing when facing Yogg; we had keepers but not Titans themselves]

[FullPunkFatigue]

You mean like The One?

Yeah, I heard they turn into Keanu Reeves at that point. Or Jet Li.

Also, I'm pretty sure there is no actual connection between The Old Gods and The Aspects. Up to this point I think it's just been a major coincidence that there have been two Old Gods we have killed and two Aspects out of commission. Sure, The Aspects were meant to guard their respective areas of expertise, but Malygos just ended up waiting too long to do something about mortal use of magic that we simply overpowered him, and Neltharion, being guardian of deep places, happened to be closer to a bunch of insane super powerful blobs with tentacles due to that fact and was driven insane himself.

[Fourty-two]

We aren't going to kill all the aspects. In fact 4 of the original 5 remain alive, and Malygos, whom we adventurers killed, is being replaced by his son Kalecgos [Possible Speculation].

Kalecgos is repersenting the flight at the moment, but from what i hear he is trying to get Azuregos to take up leadership. Which would be EPIC.

[GennGreymane]

im not even sure i believe this anymore....

i win

[Dark Side]

i win

Something like that..

[Magtheridon]

Well technically Neltharion the Earthbinder (Deathwing) was left to watch over the world to make sure no one hurts the planet itself. He was supposed to keep the world as close as possible to it's Emerald Dream cousin.

We aren't going to kill all the aspects. In fact 4 of the original 5 remain alive, and Malygos, whom we adventurers killed, is being replaced by his son Kalecgos [Possible Speculation].

Neltharion want to all ends to help protect the planet, even going as far to create the Dragon Soul, which was formed in a metal disc, with power from all of the aspects. But as it would go Neltharion would slip into madness, and use the Dragon Soul on everyone at the end of the War of the Ancients, killing the entire Blue Flight except Malygos, drinving Malygos into a depressed manic mental state. Neltharion was corrupted by the Old Gods, which is why Neltharion and Ragnaros are teaming up, they are both controlled by the Old Gods. I doubt that Alexstrasza, Nozdormu, or Ysera will fall to the Old Gods, even so a member of their brood could stand up and take their place.

Now the Old Gods were inprisoned by the Titans. Eventually their cells have weakened and they have enough power to control some mortals, who then find more and so on. C'thun used his power to create the Twilight Cult who helped to free him, but we adventures kill him before he did any large form of damage to the planet. Yogg'saron we stopped before his influence spread to any sentient life beyond Furbolgs.

Actually I think by killing the Old Gods physical forms we are actually releasing them from their true prison, which is their physical form. One titan has actually been corrupted by the Old Gods, that one being Sargeras who just happens to be the leader of the Burning Legion.

Here is Azerothian Pantheon:

Old Gods/Titans > Dragon Aspects > Elementals > Demigods > Mortal Races

So really Sargeras would be easy to take down, he's only a single titan, if we had backup we could take him down, his Legion consists of nothing but mortal races. In Ulduar, we has Titan Backing against and Old God, and that should make Deathwing sound like an easy fight.

sargeras wasn't corrupted by old gods

[Aurabolt]

Sargeras wasn't corrupted by Demons either. He just got bored and said "Hey, why not?"

Sargeras hasn't been heard from since The Battle for The Undercity Horde side (presumed to have been him who yelled at Varimathras) and assuming Blizz adds it (as far as I know it's only talked about in Knaak's Wat of the Ancients), Broxicar is the only person in Warcraft history on record who's actually wounded Sargeras.

Of the five original Aspects one's dead (Malygos, killed by adventurers and replaced by his son Kalecelos), one was trapped in the Emerald Dream (Ysera, She of the Dreaming) until recently, one's literally all over time (Nozdormu the Timeless One), one's trying to unite the Five Flights under the Wyrmcrest Accord (Alextrasza the Life-Binder) and of course, one seeks world domination (Neltharion the Earth-Warder but you know him as Deathwing).

In WoW, Chromie is the only member of the Bronze Flight Introduced in Vanilla (unless Caverns of Time was open pre-BC, I can't remember). Players meet her on an abandoned building in the ruins of Andorhal. Krasus/Korialstrasz appears alongside Rhonin (the latter OP) in anything Knaak. The Emerald Flight doesn't appear until WotLK via Dragonblight Quests (I don't know if Druids have quests pertaining to the Emerald Dream past 60 X.x). Kalec/elos is introduced in WoW the first time you go into Magister's Terrace. He appears alongside Krasus in Night of Dragon (where the Twlight Dragon, Grim Batol and Sinestra are introduced) where they do battle with Sinestra and the Twilight Dragon she creates. Onyxia and Nefarian...nuff said.

Sidenote: I understand it was for the anneversary and all but why won't they do the same for Nefarian? In fact, he gets a new Raid Instance in Cataclysm (Blackwing Descent) O.o;

[Deleted]

"The Emerald Flight doesn't appear until WotLK via Dragonblight Quests" >>>
4 Dragons of Nightmare at the Emerald Portals and Eranikus the consort of Ysera in the Temple of Atal'Hakkar alongside some quests connected with him.

[Aurabolt]

But they're no longer part of the Emerald Flight by then. Just like Malygos isn't considered the Aspect of the Blue Flight by the start of WotLK.

[Deleted]

Malygos was appointed to watch over the magic of the world and make sure no one abused it.

well you can forget about that one now

[BaddyMcBad]

Each was appointed a duty by the Titans before they left to wherever.

Alexstrasza was appointed to protect all life on Azeroth.

Malygos was appointed to watch over the magic of the world and make sure no one abused it.

Neltharion(Deathwing) was appointed to watch over the deep places of the planet.

Nozdormu was appointed to protect the timeline.

Ysera was appointed to watch over the Emerald Dream.

Damn, failure to do your job is punishable by death when working at The Pantheon Corp?

[Izenhart]

Damn, failure to do your job is punishable by death when working at The Pantheon Corp?

Mhm...prorbably he's excused.


Imagine what'd be, your best friend, the one you've always been loyal to, turns evil and wtfpwns 95% of your Dragonflight and runs away...

Can't blame him for going insane