Gear check for a gearing Disc Priest

[raziel083]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ak&cn=Liadriel Here is my armory. Mind you a couple of things...i don't have any/a lot of enchants because i turned 80 not TOO long ago and have only been able to really play on weekends. And maybe 1 or 2 nights during the week. So gold income is a bit tight and most of the gear i have just gotten today.

I'm just wondering if I'm prioritizing my gemming correctly and when is a bonus not worth it. I know sp bonuses are but at what point? And, as far as the enchants go...is it worth it enchanting any of it? or am i going to be replacing it all too soon. thanks for any and all suggestions. Critiquing is very much welcomed as long as it's not bashing.

[Samurai]

Get the badge int trinket and grind ToC5man Normal for the int trinket from there, they would be much better then what you are using.

get the rings too, both are pretty good for disc (yes even the haste/spirit one).
Once you get the rest of the badge gear you should be able to run the ICC5mans on Heroic, plenty of good drops in there, and then get into a ToC10 and ToC25 for the rest. You are still a ways off being able to heal ICC10, unless you can find 9 other people who want to carry you

Also, if you had gold, get crafted wrists, boots, belt and legs. But you said you don't. If you did have gold though, and get those (plus the stuff mentioned above) you could hit ICC10

[raziel083]

Thanks for the suggestions...i'll definitely be aiming for that stuff. I definitely don't want to be carried. I like to come through and stand on my own. I actually just yesterday, before i had gone and posted this, just became eligible(through random dungeon finder)to get into the first 2 icc 5mans. Forge of souls wasn't too too bad. Believe it or not mana wise, i can just about keep up with the usual impatient groups with 2 mana breaks. In the FoS runs i've done, i managed to keep everyone alive i think.

Pit of Saron? Well first boss with the stack was pretty scary..especially with everyone scattering and getting out of range. Then ick(gnome boss) just about wiped twice because, up until then i never knew about the acid explosion(my noobish fault) and it killed me twice. Thank god for druid battle rezzes. Before the priest i used to heal it with my pally and i guess was never in range of it to notice it. Gauntlet was even scarier, especially up the ramp. I was using every tool i know to keep the tank up. Only other person that kept dying was the idiot dk that kept standing in acid and arcane explosions and standing under the CLEAR areas where the ice dropped in the gauntlet. I finally stopped healing him and just kept the rest of group up.

One thing that it did bring to question though is my gemming. My heal throughput was definitely not big enough, and kept having to spam multiple heals at a time onto tank to keep him up. A few times he was at hair width health. I guess i'm so used to the huge output that paladins have along with their obnoxious mana pools. So I was wondering how many of the current gems i have now i should replace with just pure sp? And whether i should gem for crit(for shield procs) and/or haste too? Given my current gear status should i go for the int and mana regen as well? I've seen a few discs gem stack on pure sp...but when and at what point is it not good or should i allocate to another stat such as int/crit/haste?

[gringo]

It gets better when you gear gets better. My disc priest hit 5400 GS recently (under 2 days played @lvl 80) and heroics are a breeze, PW:S + PoM on tank. Penance if health drops and the occasional flash heal is more than enough.
When I started I used to go oom and had to drink every other fight, now I spam holy nova and mind sear to not fall asleep.
What I did: I got a lot of WSG shards on other chars and spent them all on honor marks. This way I could afford all the iLvl 264 pvp items with spirit. Then I bought all the non-set iLvl 245 epics and 2T9 with triumph emblems, always replacing the weakest item.

As far as gemming goes: runed (SP) in red socket, reckless (SP+haste) in yellow and purified (SP+spirit) in blue sockets and IED (Int + mana on spellcast) in Meta. see also: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/736102-Proper-Gemming-for-Discipline-(PVE)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ecus&n=Ninguna

And don't feel bad about letting bads die, think about it as education

[Madam]

One thing that it did bring to question though is my gemming. My heal throughput was definitely not big enough, and kept having to spam multiple heals at a time onto tank to keep him up. A few times he was at hair width health. I guess i'm so used to the huge output that paladins have along with their obnoxious mana pools. So I was wondering how many of the current gems i have now i should replace with just pure sp? And whether i should gem for crit(for shield procs) and/or haste too? Given my current gear status should i go for the int and mana regen as well? I've seen a few discs gem stack on pure sp...but when and at what point is it not good or should i allocate to another stat such as int/crit/haste?

After looking at your Armory a few things stand out...
I know you stated in your original post that gold it tight, but you are missing out on 186 spellpower without enchanting, that is equivalent to a glvl 277 spellpower trinket. Since you run randoms just select DE on greens and blues, they add up fast.
By adding your missing enchants you will add value to all your spells, AND increase the size of PW:S and DA, allowing you more time between heals and in turn not waste your mana.

You may want to change your Meta to Insightful Earthsiege Diamond or if mana isn't a concern Ember Skyflare Diamond.

As a Disc Priest looking forward, try and aim for gear with both Haste and Crit, ATM you seem to be Spirit heavy, good for Shadow but not so much Disc.

I see you just bought the 232 set chest, but if you have another toon that has emblems to burn find a tailor to make Merlin's Robe and Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers, the cuffs at the minimum would be a very nice upgrade.

Keep in mind that spellpower is king for Disc, unlike the Holy Pally stacking regen. If you shield correctly Rapture is your best friend. Don't worry so much about matching sockets if you can add more spellpower "just do it".

I would recommend using your Frost Emblems on the spellpower trinket as it seems your regen it a a nice place.

[raziel083]

I really appreciate the feedback and suggestions. Thanks a million. Yeah i went a little spirit heavy because...maybe i just misunderstood, i thought that regen is a pretty good stat to pick up. And to pick up more so spirit then any mp5 stats as disc. I knew spell power was first and foremost but i didn't know to what extent. So next time i'm able to i gonna drop any spirit gems i have and go for the haste and crit. Should i get pure haste gems or haste/crit gems?

And as far as the enchanting, yeah thats a working progress as far as getting the gold to do it and what not. Really quick question about DA and PW:S. I know rapture allows for mana return and it gives "x" amount of resource back to shielded target but i talked to a tank paladin and he was saying even with rapture, because of SA, rapture still isn't good enough. Now i still do shield pally tanks but i watch their mana a lot to make sure it doesn't mana starve them or if they're low i just won't shield them. Should i really worry about that? Any other tanks though never complain about it.

[Ultima]

It's a valid concern. Paladins who farm dungeons while gearing usually have 2/2 Spiritual Attunement, so they gain 10% instead of 5%. (Usually out of ignorance rather than intelligence, but hey.)

When I play on my Priest as Disc with my Paladin friend, we solve this issue by pulling half the instance so that his blocks restore the mana. That's obviously not viable in this case. Ask the tank if they are using Blessing of Sanctuary and Judgement of Wisdom.

On my Prot Paladin, I find I can run oom easily due to two things:

I am using all my moves when I don't need to, since I am holding threat easily.

I somehow stopped pulling and Divine Plea fell off.


TL;DR - Bubble the Paladin when his mana is fine, if his is below half and you have a lot of mana, just heal him for a bit. It means you can save PW: Shield for an emergency.

[wildx]

I have never had the pally-mana problem. In fact, my pally tank friends have told me they always get more mana when they run with me. :/ So in rh it's bubbles whenever in combat. If they have issues with mana from disc bubbles they might as well never play ICC?

[Bigslick]

So next time i'm able to i gonna drop any spirit gems i have and go for the haste and crit. Should i get pure haste gems or haste/crit gems?

Neither.

[Nisala]

I have never had the pally-mana problem. In fact, my pally tank friends have told me they always get more mana when they run with me. :/ So in rh it's bubbles whenever in combat. If they have issues with mana from disc bubbles they might as well never play ICC?

Yes, because we can totally draw parallels between ICC damage and heroics.

[wildx]

I consider it good practice to learn to conserve mana rather than telling the healer to heal worse. Unless they've got pretty bad gear for the instance they're in, if they're doing things correctly then bubbles shouldn't make a big difference with mana. Is the lesser damage in heroics an excuse to not do things properly? I think not.

[Thrayne]

Unless it is a fresh 80 pally you should bubble like normal. The avoidance is not messed up when you are bubbled, so everytime you dodge you get mana. Also chain pulling helps with divine plea up time (which should be almost 100% in a heroic) and alot of mobs attacks to dodge and get more mana.

[Madam]

The important thing to remember is we all play as a group. If the priest is only shielding a pally, and smaller packs are being pulled, sure, the pally will run out of mana, and if tank loses threat from being mana starved other DPS or even the healer can pull aggro causing the priest to have to heal more. NOT shielding a pally is indeed the correct strategy at certain times. Sure most good pally tanks know how to compensate with a shield, but in heroics some are still learning. My pally tank will either pull extra mobs or sometimes remove some gear for fun.

As for ICC, if the pally isn't taking direct damage (or off tanking) same thing...just let him/her take some damage before the shield goes up. Just boils down to team work.

[Cyno]

Here's a list of some easily obtained non-raid upgrades for you...

Neck: http://www.wowhead.com/item=50211 H FoS
Cloak: http://www.wowhead.com/item=49823 Reg PoS
Chest: http://www.wowhead.com/item=47603 Crafted
Bracers: http://www.wowhead.com/item=47585 Crafted
Waist: http://www.wowhead.com/item=47218 Reg ToC / http://www.wowhead.com/item=50263 H PoS / http://www.wowhead.com/item=50314 H HoR
Leggings: http://www.wowhead.com/item=49822 Reg PoS / http://www.wowhead.com/item=47980 Emblems
Boots: http://www.wowhead.com/item=49805 Reg PoS / http://www.wowhead.com/item=50286 H PoS
Rings: http://www.wowhead.com/item=49800 Reg FoS / http://www.wowhead.com/item=47733 Emblems / http://www.wowhead.com/item=50313 H HoR
Trinkets: http://www.wowhead.com/item=47215 Reg ToC / http://www.wowhead.com/item=48724 Emblems
Weapon & off-hand: http://www.wowhead.com/item=50227 H PoS / http://www.wowhead.com/item=50309 H HoR
Wand: http://www.wowhead.com/item=47658 Emblem

Some of these are not properly itemized for disc but they're the best non-raid pieces you'll be able to get. Also note I did leave out ICC crafted piece due to cost.

As for gems you have the right meta as for the rest currently you should aim for http://www.wowhead.com/item=40151 in yellow sockets, http://www.wowhead.com/item=40133 in blue sockets that have a socket bonus of six spell power or higher to meet the meta requirement, and http://www.wowhead.com/item=40113 in all the sockets that don't meet the above requirements.