New Ret Mastery- 9/9/2010

[Koobo]

Selfless Healer?I know its kinda ehhh but still.


The problem is not the proc rate,its the fact that when it procs your target may very well die.

I can see how yes it could hurt in PVP, but you have to remember it is physical damage it is doing. Armor will affect how hard it hits and with the new health pools and the damage i've seen it doing on my friends beta pally, i'm not too worried about it two shoting people. Yes it may hit casters much harder then plate but with the way they are able to kite us anyway, we won't get many white hits off on them.

[The Good Captain]

Shouldn't this also make haste more intresting as more autoattack = more procs ?

Yes. That's why most of us were banking on an RV-type mastery, that would have essentially done the same thing for our stats. At this point, add a mana-regen' mechanic to SoB, and Haste becomes a lot more appealing. I also don't see it being that tremendous a PvP beast. "Hey, yeah, could you sit right here while I hit you, to make it fair? Yeah, there, just like that, thanks! *thumbs up*"

*is feared*

[Borigrad]

i really want all paladins to not count out a proper use of word of glory and inqusition, with exo judgement and seal of truth, it has the potential to be a very high dps spec.

we may have a templars verdict build for burst damage, and a self buff build for damage over time, with selfless healer and inquistion.

[Alenko]

i really want all paladins to not count out a proper use of word of glory and inqusition, with exo judgement and seal of truth, it has the potential to be a very high dps spec.

we may have a templars verdict build for burst damage, and a self buff build for damage over time, with selfless healer and inquistion.

best case senario is you use new SH to boost dmg by 12% for 10 seconds, or just TV twice and do more overall dmg.

[Jaxi]

Ret is being made into a class that actually has to watch their procs and whatnot instead of just mashing buttons now. I thought the mastery was going to be something about TV?

Nnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *GASP* *pant pant* *Inhale* ooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I enjoyed face smashing.

[Caradinist]

Well, look on the bright side, at least we no longer have to rely on a seal where the effect MIGHT proc, eh? Eh?

[zcks]

We really did not need another RNG proc ability, If they were going to make one the least they could have done is make it so all attacks could trigger it. Or they could have made it a proc that always triggered after we use a certain core ability that either buffed a certain other core ability or allowed the use of an ability we don't get to use that often like hammer of wrath.

As it stands now we will have so much RNG that even if you play the class perfectly on the same fight multiple times each encounter will have a huge gap between what dps you managed to do because of random luck. What we need is more abilities that guarantee procs that allow the use of other abilities not random luck.

[Vasz]

So damned dumb.

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I'm sick and damned tired of rng making my dps vary by 10-30%.

This is shy I stopped playing Enh Shaman.

That aside, if your mastery is 20%, that's still pretty damn good imo.

[Koobo]

This is shy I stopped playing Enh Shaman.

That aside, if your mastery is 20%, that's still pretty damn good imo.

^ agreed

[ralphie]

Welcome to the life of an enhancement shaman!

[Ronark]

Welcome to the life of an enhancement shaman!

2 handed Enhancement reborn :P

[Requital]

Cataclysm Beta - Build 12943 (Codename Gambler)

Retribution
* Retribution has been renamed Procribution.
* Seals of Command has been renamed to Seal of Casino.
* Divine Purpose has been renamed to fit the theme to Divine Roulette

[Ronark]

Cataclysm Beta - Build 12943 (Codename Gambler)

Retribution
* Retribution has been renamed Procribution.
* Seals of Command has been renamed to Seal of Casino.
* Divine Purpose has been renamed to fit the theme to Divine Roulette

* Hotstreak is now a Tier 4 Procribution Paladin talent, down from Tier 4 Fire Mage talent.

[Mefistophelis]

and for a moment i thought they couldnt make it more RNG ... BAMMM . moar RNG for you ppl to put in your new shiny Blizz power auras. mmmm

[Borigrad]

you know at the rate were going, i wouldn't be surprised if our white swings stopped needing hit and expertise, and just had a flat 45% chance to miss.

[Kawakazi]

I heard procs are evil and should be banished to the netherworld. It is blasphemous to say otherwise.

[PetersenII]

you know at the rate were going, i wouldn't be surprised if our white swings stopped needing hit and expertise, and just had a flat 45% chance to miss.

That made me laugh.

[zcks]

How many procs do we have to rely on now 5 ? It would not be so bad if they made it work with any attack but just having auto attacks trigger it is going to suck especially in pvp where it is so hard for us to get onto let alone stay on most ranged classes.

[Deleted]

you know at the rate were going, i wouldn't be surprised if our white swings stopped needing hit and expertise, and just had a flat 45% chance to miss.

LOL. I feel your pain. I truly do... I am so looking forward to Retrbution off spec in Cataclysm but just looking at all these strange changes makes me cringe. I mean just look at the buffs to DK and Warrior DPS...

[Talen]

http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/76672/
Hand of Light: Your autoattacks have a 8% chance to grant Hand of Light, causing your next Holy Power ability to consume no Holy Power and to cast as if 3 Holy Power were consumed. Each point of Mastery increases the chance by an additional 1%.

Wow... Reminds me of our t10 DStorm bonus which is baslically the hole templar's verdict is filling. Sounds fun but geez so many procs for ret now.

Also the way it's stated mastery might wind up being expertise-based gaining Points aka i need 26 expertise points.

Whats so special about it? Change DP to affect all dmaging attacks. Voila.

This is hardly a great mastery. Indeed, its a poor one.

Yet more RNG and wasted DP procs.

Hugely disappointing. Sad to say...the old bonus was boring....but better than this.

EJL