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    9/16 after the login maintenance - RET numbers

    So I just sat on the Heroic Dummy in IF and pulled 12k avg DPS over 10 million damage done.

    17k Censure DOT crits
    9k SOT crits
    19k TV crits
    40k Judgement of Truth Crits
    40k HOW crits

    /discuss

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    So in an effort to re-buff ret numbers again, since they were borked on previous PTR, they may have overpowered them? Hmmm. Need to jump on PTR.

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    HoW spammable with wings. 40k spammable ability FTW!
    I don't heal STUPID, Stupid SHOULD HURT!
    Syntyche - Disc Priest

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    Question; what is a heroic dummy?

    Also: Nice dps

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    Please god don't be a repeat of 2.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius View Post
    So in an effort to re-buff ret numbers again, since they were borked on previous PTR, they may have overpowered them? Hmmm. Need to jump on PTR.

    Really, my brother on his 264/277 gear Shaman was pulling 20k+ on target dummies. His max hit was 102k. Thats OP, not ret.
    I don't heal STUPID, Stupid SHOULD HURT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velion View Post
    Please god don't be a repeat of 2.9
    2.9 was pretty fun, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velion View Post
    Please god don't be a repeat of 2.9
    No... kidding. I was happier when they were lolret. Hopefully the nerf them back in line with all the other classes. I want balance!
    "Questions are for those seeking answers. Those who have answers are those who have asked questions." -Mike R. (Malthurius)

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    I thought TV was meant to be the HARDEST hitting ret attack, not judgement. Did they buff judgement and seal AP coefficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthurius View Post
    No... kidding. I was happier when they were lolret. Hopefully the nerf them back in line with all the other classes. I want balance!
    How on earth is ret paladins balanced in terms of raid dps or arena viability or BG viability on current live realms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malachi24 View Post
    So I just sat on the Heroic Dummy in IF and pulled 12k avg DPS over 10 million damage done.

    17k Censure DOT crits
    9k SOT crits
    19k TV crits
    40k Judgement of Truth Crits
    40k HOW crits

    /discuss
    I tried to duplicate this and it's not working. This has got to be a bug with some debuff interacting with another. I only wish it were true.

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    PTR or Beta? Because I am not seeing these kinds of numbers on the PTR.

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    Ive no clue what this guy is talking about. I logged in and was at the same place I was at the beginning of the week when the PTR went up.

    5-6k on the boss dummy self buffed with might.
    I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money; but what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I've acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now that will be the end of it. I will not look for you, i will not pursue you but if you don't; I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

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    I still say they should make our procs be about allowing the use of harder hitting abilities when they trigger instead of about resource generation. The way it is now they just make us feel clunky & will be horrible in pvp or fights which have target switching as we will rarely be face to face with a target for long.

    Perhaps if they made hammer of wrath & exorcism usable on procs then made divine purpose always generate a charge of holy power when you use exorcism or judgment. They could even add judgment onto sanctity of battle to lower it's Cd and lessen the periods when were stuck with everything on CD or not being in range.
    The way balancing for WOW PVP works is allot like American politics.
    1: Be lazy & ignore problems till the yelling is so loud your cant concentrate.
    2: Refuse to do the things you have Said need to be done, then make up reasons why they cannot be done.
    3: Lay the blame for problems on someone else even when it's your fault because you did all of the above.

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    It's happened before, it has to be a bug where some debuff is causing our attacks, specifically the censure DOT, to be picking up some sort of modifier from something else.

    I could SS my recount but that's too much work.

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-16 at 07:12 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Munk View Post
    Ive no clue what this guy is talking about. I logged in and was at the same place I was at the beginning of the week when the PTR went up.

    5-6k on the boss dummy self buffed with might.
    Tone your attitude down, bud. You may think you rule these forums but it's pretty apparent that no one likes you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malachi24 View Post
    It's happened before, it has to be a bug where some debuff is causing our attacks, specifically the censure DOT, to be picking up some sort of modifier from something else.

    I could SS my recount but that's too much work.

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-16 at 07:12 PM ----------



    Tone your attitude down, bud. You may think you rule these forums but it's pretty apparent that no one likes you.
    In what way did I have an attitude or act like these were my forums. I said I dont know where he's getting these numbers because its not on the same PTR im on.

    Please go away you've been nothing but flame and troll in as many posts as ive seen you post.

    For the record I really dont care if anyone here likes me. I come here for the insight of raiders like adamson, prentice, badpally, requital. Nowhere else I can get so many great retadins in one place to help me become better. I wish you could understand that.
    I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money; but what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I've acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now that will be the end of it. I will not look for you, i will not pursue you but if you don't; I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

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    I mean this is as friendly a way as possible but please take the slapfight outside and leave the discussions around the paladin class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munk View Post
    In what way did I have an attitude or act like these were my forums. I said I dont know where he's getting these numbers because its not on the same PTR im on.

    Please go away you've been nothing but flame and troll in as many posts as ive seen you post.

    For the record I really dont care if anyone here likes me. I come here for the insight of raiders like adamson, prentice, badpally, requital. Nowhere else I can get so many great retadins in one place to help me become better. I wish you could understand that.
    Lol. I have no idea what "this guy" is talking about. Your elitist attitude is pretty apparent all over these forums, as is your desire to attack everyone who disagrees with you.

    Don't worry though, keep trolling, you're bound to grow up and lose the attitude at some point. At least I hope.

    And for the record, 5-6k on the PTR isn't good. You either aren't very well-geared or don't understand the new rotation. Perhaps you're one of the paladins Blizzard wishes to weed out. right?
    Last edited by malachi24; 2010-09-17 at 12:49 AM.

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    you have the damned hodir buff or something? /sarcasum
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    Quote Originally Posted by malachi24 View Post
    And for the record, 5-6k on the PTR isn't good. You either aren't very well-geared or don't understand the new rotation. Perhaps you're one of the paladins Blizzard wishes to weed out. right?
    Ok, now I am curious. Just what are you pulling on the PTR. With my copied pally, 6007 GS all 264 cept for 2 251 pieces, and shadows edge, can only get 4800-5000 dps without using zealotry and AW on a heroic dummy.
    Last edited by Traison; 2010-09-17 at 12:56 AM.

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