DW Prot Tanking

[Antenorra]

Okay out of both shear boredom and stupidity I decided to give this a try. I really only have two questions:

1) should I be using two +def weapons or follow suit with DKs and tank with two slow 1h?
2) WTF am I thinking?

Note: I'm not planning to tank any raids, just have fun in heroics.

Here's my warrior:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...am&cn=Sammwise

[danoob77]

I would say slow dps weapon/fast tanking offhand if you are going as prot spec, if you are going to be fury slow/slow.

[j46ebucemag]

Uh...why would you not use a shield?? Several of your high single-target threat builders require a shield.

[Antenorra]

Uh...why would you not use a shield?? Several of your high single-target threat builders require a shield.

I know but I'm really bored of tanking so I thought I'd liven it up. I'll still use a shield if I tank a raid but this is just to have fun in heroics.

[Bowz]

Uh...why would you not use a shield?? Several of your high single-target threat builders require a shield.

From what it looks like in OP's post they are doing it just because they can. Not because it practical.

EDIT: Lol opps, look like Ante beat me to it by a minute :P

[j46ebucemag]

Apologies, in that case, I'd go with what danoob said. Slower weapon = bigger hits from weapon based abilities, tank offhand for the stats.

[cowlazar]

Okay out of both shear boredom and stupidity I decided to give this a try. I really only have two questions:

1) should I be using two +def weapons or follow suit with DKs and tank with two slow 1h?
2) WTF am I thinking?

Note: I'm not planning to tank any raids, just have fun in heroics.

I have to admit...tanking as TG warrior is fun in heroics, but I would never claim it to be viable option outside of overgearing content tremendously. I ran with TG - Ramaladni's x 2 today just for LOL's. 6k dps trash is fun times. healer didnt seem to have issues. I wore all tank gear except ring and weapons and one trinket. Think I logged out in current (stupid) spec and gear
-cowlazar, shandris US

[Antenorra]

Apologies, in that case, I'd go with what danoob said. Slower weapon = bigger hits from weapon based abilities, tank offhand for the stats.

Yea, that's what I thought. Maybe I'll be crazy enough to tank a raid (though prob not ICC) as a DW tank. I really am bored!

I have to admit...tanking as TG warrior is fun in heroics, but I would never claim it to be viable option outside of overgearing content tremendously.

That's all I'm pretty much doing with this except I'm going prot instead of TG.

[Snes]

In cataclysm you'll have to be specced fury to dual wield... So if you want to screw around with it while you still can, go for it.

[Hitriy]

i would understand if you'd get tired of tanking icc and wanted to tank heroics with dw. but after i checked your gear i was like . WTF ? he didnt tank enough to be tired of using shield.
From the other side; Shield Slam gives you loads of threat and its a main ability for prot warrior.
imo you dont have enough avoidance\hp and damage to do a good threat. I might be wrong here.
Anyway , tanking with dw sounds funny and interesting, and maybe id try it if it was viable in a raids

[JustintimeSS]

How could you even be close to being tired of tanking? I could have gotten your gear from about 2 weeks of tanking.

Maybe tanking isnt your thing, if you are already bored.

Also, booming voice over the rest of deep wounds? Revenge glyph?

You should probably consider trying a class less boring to you.

[SirTBone]

I get bored with regular tanking in Heroics. I'll queue as tank and only switch to prot gear if it's actually an instance where there is a remote chance of dying. But self buffed with the Dungeon buff I have over 35k health in dps gear, approximately twice of what we had as prot starting WotLK. I actually have never had a single healer complain as it gives them something to do as well.

Plus hitting 15k dps on bosses is fun

[SSLanfear]

tanking with 277 dps gear is the way to go, Prot is like the highest front loaded dmg, no other dps class can even match me when i'm tanking in heroics on any multi-pull. 85% arp 40% crit = 24k revenge crits and 15-16k shockwave crits(on each mob).. Things just die b4 you take dmg. Only place you can't do this is HoR unless you have a good healer.

and yes you can do this in a raid, icc trash is FUN with prot dps gear. 50k health and doing 25k dps.

[Cigss]

i really think this almost perfectly illustrates my viewpoint of the problem with WotLK. IMHO the problem with wrath was not that content was too easy (hardmode wise) its that it was too accessible. there are very few of us who actually smashed ALL of the ulduar hardmodes (i still never got 1 light) and got insanity on ToGC. even fewer who actually downed HLK 25.

however, since an entire huge percentage of the population who was stuck farming kara and paying for ZA warbears last expansion because they lack the skill / dedication it takes to be a REAL RAIDER, got to participate in all of the raids this xpac. they got free loot from grinding heroics and pugging the last tier (and current tier sometimes). these are the same people that are on these forums bitching that everything is too easy. heres the deal man, im not gonna spit out some fake ass numbers but if i were a betting man i would say that people who actually progress and clear hardmode content WHILE RELEVANT would not say this game is too easy by and large. we are the ones who are actually clearing the content designed with any difficulty level at all. and some of these hardmodes are fucking legitimately hard.

here we have a dude whos not progressed in the current tier, claiming he is already bored with the content and is so leet he has to revert to DW tanking on a warrior. BRO YOU HAVENT EVEN CLEARED CURRENT CONTENT HOW ARE YOU BORED? i guess i dont care that all the easy modes are easy and when you outgear heroics they are lolfest but i do care that all of these scrubs are talking about how easy this game is when they havent even beaten anything designed to challenge them.

this expansion made alot of people think they are better players than they really are. when i see these dudes on forums all i can picture is dark legacy donald screaming IM A RAIDER!

[JustintimeSS]

i really think this almost perfectly illustrates my viewpoint of the problem with WotLK. IMHO the problem with wrath was not that content was too easy (hardmode wise) its that it was too accessible. there are very few of us who actually smashed ALL of the ulduar hardmodes (i still never got 1 light) and got insanity on ToGC. even fewer who actually downed HLK 25.

however, since an entire huge percentage of the population who was stuck farming kara and paying for ZA warbears last expansion because they lack the skill / dedication it takes to be a REAL RAIDER, got to participate in all of the raids this xpac. they got free loot from grinding heroics and pugging the last tier (and current tier sometimes). these are the same people that are on these forums bitching that everything is too easy. heres the deal man, im not gonna spit out some fake ass numbers but if i were a betting man i would say that people who actually progress and clear hardmode content WHILE RELEVANT would not say this game is too easy by and large. we are the ones who are actually clearing the content designed with any difficulty level at all. and some of these hardmodes are fucking legitimately hard.

here we have a dude whos not progressed in the current tier, claiming he is already bored with the content and is so leet he has to revert to DW tanking on a warrior. BRO YOU HAVENT EVEN CLEARED CURRENT CONTENT HOW ARE YOU BORED? i guess i dont care that all the easy modes are easy and when you outgear heroics they are lolfest but i do care that all of these scrubs are talking about how easy this game is when they havent even beaten anything designed to challenge them.

this expansion made alot of people think they are better players than they really are. when i see these dudes on forums all i can picture is dark legacy donald screaming IM A RAIDER!

While I feel your enthusiasm for the subject I think you can breathe easy. Cata tanking is going to shed a few of the people who consider themselves tanks rather quickly. Especially when hitting heroic versions of the dungeons. Personally I think it will get rid of them a lot faster. We should see a great influx of dps DKs rather quickly at the Heroic point in cata.

[Cheiver]

If you want to do something fun, tank with a hunter. Get a tank gun, tank weps, tank accessories, and all pvp/stm gear.

Seen it done back in BC. Had a hunter do that and stacked his health to around 16k (that was alot at level 70) and he distract shot/kited everything around. He even was successful in tanking like 2 trash packs in a heroic.

[Antenorra]

i really think this almost perfectly illustrates my viewpoint of the problem with WotLK. IMHO the problem with wrath was not that content was too easy (hardmode wise) its that it was too accessible. there are very few of us who actually smashed ALL of the ulduar hardmodes (i still never got 1 light) and got insanity on ToGC. even fewer who actually downed HLK 25.

however, since an entire huge percentage of the population who was stuck farming kara and paying for ZA warbears last expansion because they lack the skill / dedication it takes to be a REAL RAIDER, got to participate in all of the raids this xpac. they got free loot from grinding heroics and pugging the last tier (and current tier sometimes). these are the same people that are on these forums bitching that everything is too easy. heres the deal man, im not gonna spit out some fake ass numbers but if i were a betting man i would say that people who actually progress and clear hardmode content WHILE RELEVANT would not say this game is too easy by and large. we are the ones who are actually clearing the content designed with any difficulty level at all. and some of these hardmodes are fucking legitimately hard.

here we have a dude whos not progressed in the current tier, claiming he is already bored with the content and is so leet he has to revert to DW tanking on a warrior. BRO YOU HAVENT EVEN CLEARED CURRENT CONTENT HOW ARE YOU BORED? i guess i dont care that all the easy modes are easy and when you outgear heroics they are lolfest but i do care that all of these scrubs are talking about how easy this game is when they havent even beaten anything designed to challenge them.

this expansion made alot of people think they are better players than they really are. when i see these dudes on forums all i can picture is dark legacy donald screaming IM A RAIDER!

I never said I tanked ICC on this toon. Notice that my signature is a Druid. My Warrior is an alt and I only play around as fury with him so I figure I'd take the best of both worlds and have a little fun. Also, those saying I don't have the gear, yea I know; it's an alt and prot is an offspec. IF I raid with him, it's usually as fury. And you're "BRO YOU HAVEN'T EVEN CLEARED CONTENT HOW ARE YOU BORED" schpeel doesn't really apply to my Warrior as I HAVE seen content on my main. Look her up if you're so inclined as to insult me first. Or better yet, here's her armory:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...m&cn=Antenorra

I'm in a 10 man guild only because I am a Grad student and barely have time to play as it is.

How could you even be close to being tired of tanking? I could have gotten your gear from about 2 weeks of tanking.

Maybe tanking isnt your thing, if you are already bored.

Also, booming voice over the rest of deep wounds? Revenge glyph?

You should probably consider trying a class less boring to you.

My main spec for him is fury and I only tank in heroics. I switched out for the revenge glyph when I decided to try DW tanking. And I do have an 80 of each tanking class and Warrior is still the most fun but since I only tank HCs with him, I got bored easily.

While I feel your enthusiasm for the subject I think you can breathe easy. Cata tanking is going to shed a few of the people who consider themselves tanks rather quickly. Especially when hitting heroic versions of the dungeons. Personally I think it will get rid of them a lot faster. We should see a great influx of dps DKs rather quickly at the Heroic point in cata.

I tanked as my warrior in vanilla and as my druid in BC so I don't think I'm gonna have much problem if my DPS is smart enough.

[Cigss]

why would you link me an armory of your main that proves my point? even if youre only in a 10m guild you STILL havent cleared the content. in fact, im in iraq and have been since right after ToGC. i can get on occasionally to some bs guildie alt run of ICC 10/25 at around 1k latency and your achievements are literally comparable to mine. i guess thanks for proving my point.

INB4 WHERES YOUR ARMORY THEN NUB - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...eaker&cn=Cigss

also inb4 you havent done "x" haha nub caught ya! - im not the one claiming to be bored. i have accomplished a fair bit in this game, but i cant recall ever getting everything. there is always something challenging to do.

[Antenorra]

I'm sorry I can't be as hardcore as you. I get to play probably less than you so you do have a foothold on me. I fully admit I haven't done everything but of what I can do, I've done it all. As I've said, this is mostly for a boost in the fun of what content I can do. I salute you for serving our country and hopefully you are man enough to put this aside. It's a gimmick; something to do to get out of the boredom of what all I can do.

[Cigss]

eh really not so much an attack on you personally dude. just using you as an example of the mindset that this xpac has created and why it makes me mad in general. you just happened to illustrate it with this particular thread.