Quit the whining about the portals

[Tykus]

It's only going to accomplish 2 things.

The first is desired, it will make things take longer. (slightly easier to drag out content, or make it "consume more time")

And there will be a mass increase in mage spam via trade or tells.

Possible third, is if they create items that are gold sinks or something, that teleport you to citys.

[Arck908]

It's only going to accomplish 2 things.

The first is desired, it will make things take longer. (slightly easier to drag out content, or make it "consume more time")

And there will be a mass increase in mage spam via trade or tells.

Possible third is if they create items that are gold sinks or something that teleport you to citys.

The only thing I understood here was "Mass increase in mage spam"

[Deleted]

Quit whining about whining and unnecessarily inflating the number of threads on this topic. You don't care, so don't read the existing threads... and most of all, DON'T MAKE MORE!!!

quit whining about whining about whining

[rzy]

1. What makes it dumb?
2. Its supposed to be quick and simple, F travel.
3. Yea that's good, no more time sinks.
4. That's all in the past. No one cares about travel anymore. We've all seen it and don't care for it anymore. Just get us where we need to be 123.

This - if i wanted to actually travel i would but i dont wan't to atall - it wastes what little time i spend in the game anyway.

[Zoots]

your using that saying wrong crocodile tears refers to someone acting sad and emotional to garner some form of boon.

Thanks Captain Obvious, that's exactly how I feel these people are acting. The saying was applied appropriately.

[Astemus]

The only thing this changes for me is not having to think about spending the gold on that port to dalaran ring just for the port. It will be completely useless now. Completely. Want to go back to northrend? I am guessing it's for the tournament or to try soloing ICC, well, use the argent tournament tabard.

Thanks blizzard for saving me thousands of gold.

[Loot Ore Cartel]

Suddenly mages.
Mages everywhere.

[Usagi Vindaloo]

Seriously, it's been bothering me this whole night hearing all these people whine about portals.

Ever since BC came out and the whole one city all portals thing started the game has felt dumb

It feels like travel isn't travel it just feels like getting places is too quick and simple

It wasn't as bad in BC there was still some feel of a commute but with WOTLK it just felt like sort of pointless like "oh you need to get from one end of the continent to the other?" " thats ok just hearth and hop into a portal and your there in less than a minute"

Back in vanilla going somewhere actually sort of felt like a journey I mean yeah there were mages but even so the high level focus points were a ways away from major cities , the portals just make the game feel fractured

My main issue with them removing the portals was that I honestly wanted to set my hearth in a neutral city as opposed to Horde only territory. I really hate the war that's starting up (I'm here to fight a war against bad guys like Deathwing etc, not other good guys) so staying in a place where the Alli and Horde still kind of get along and I can /wave to draenei etc was something I was looking forward to. The act of commuting/flying/whatever isn't so bad, and frankly, if Dalaran was better located (like, say, Borean Tundra) I'd take the extra zepplin etc just for the opportunity to be in a neutral place. Unfortunately, the commute from Dalaran to Org is going to be very painful. Still not sure if I'll cave and set hearthstone to Org or whatever or whether I'll just shrug and eat the extra commute time from Dalaran.

[iSmack]

My only problem with this is it's gonna make people even more lazy. They'll be too lazy to fly somewhere and they'll ask for summons all the time. I mean c'mon we've all seen the people that ask for a summon to VoA when they are in Dalaran. Think of how much worse it's gonna be when they have to fly for a few minutes to get to the raid entrance.

ICC is currently like that and look how close it is to Dalaran... Lazy people are still gonna become lazier.

[Stonebald]

Well, you could look at it from the new Archeology perspective... There are going to be 4 nodes on every continent to start harvesting when you get up in skill, that's going to be some serious traveling.

They won't let us fly from one continent to another or into "space". Did you really want to make the run from Netherguard to the DP to Hellfire just to get to edge of the Outlands? Or wait for the boat/blimp to get to the farthest edges of Northrend?

How about a port to Shat and a port to Dal in one major city per faction... at least that would be in the center more or less.

Beside, I bought that friggin Dal Ring to free up the ole Hearthstone... that enough whining?

(actually, it is going to be so nice to have new stuff to see and fly in the main questing areas, I could care less... god bless engineering.)

[ItachiZaku]

The portals in Dal were making the world seem so much smaller than it really was.

There have been many times I've had a quest and was told I had to go somewhere. I check the continent with UC and I'd hit 4 total flight paths. Screw it.

[Deleted]

Back in vanilla going somewhere actually sort of felt like a journey I mean yeah there were mages but even so the high level focus points were a ways away from major cities , the portals just make the game feel fractured

back when I was a child, we had no videogames, cellphones, home computers or porn
I am a nostalgic cranky old man and I demand you suffer just like I did when I was your age, Justahealer

[Usagi Vindaloo]

How about a port to Shat and a port to Dal in one major city per faction... at least that would be in the center more or less.

I like this idea immensely. It would allow people who genuinely like Dalaran (or Shatt) to spend their free time there while still being able to access one major city... but not all of them. It would be a mild inconvenience, but not a deal breaker, and Org etc. would still get plenty of traffic from the Dalaran people continually porting in and out.

If you wanted to make it more of an inconvenience, you could always have the portals go to Exodar/Silvermoon... those places need more traffic, darnit, they're too pretty to be left as ghost towns!

[Vic]

This is for the people that are for them removing portals in Dal/Shatt--the ones that says it shrinks the world:

Without portals traveling:
Im in Org.
the raid im going to is on Eastern Kingdoms side.
I take the zep to UC
I fly over the continent seeing areas I've never seen before.
I get to the raid

With portals:
Im in Dal/shatt.
the raid im going to is on Eastern Kingdoms side.
I take the port to UC
I fly over the continent seeing areas I've never seen before.
I get to the raid.

It's kind of a moot point to say that traveling via zepp vs port is much different (we've seen all the zep pathing already). Your still going to have to travel from a major city to the raid that could be far away (which is the major part of the trip anyway) or just wait for a warlock summon (making the world smaller right? Maybe they should get rid of lock summons too.)

It's nothing, but an inconvience, and nothing more than that.

[lustyevilgnome]

1. What makes it dumb?
2. Its supposed to be quick and simple, F travel.
3. Yea that's good, no more time sinks.
4. That's all in the past. No one cares about travel anymore. We've all seen it and don't care for it anymore. Just get us where we need to be 123.

This, basically.

[Zoots]

There have been many times I've had a quest and was told I had to go somewhere. I check the continent with UC and I'd hit 4 total flight paths. Screw it.

It must take you a whole few minutes to get there! MINUTES!!!

[Tavek]

Imo, the change is fine. The only thing I'd really want Blizz to do is have flightpaths from the Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord towns to Dalaran like they did with Hellfire to Shattrath.

[agelos]

Tired of seeing people whining about it? Dont click on those threads and certainly dont make more of them.

[Usagi Vindaloo]

This is for the people that are for them removing portals in Dal/Shatt--the ones that says it shrinks the world:

Without portals traveling:
Im in Org.
the raid im going to is on Eastern Kingdoms side.
I take the zep to UC
I fly over the continent seeing areas I've never seen before.
I get to the raid

With portals:
Im in Dal/shatt.
the raid im going to is on Eastern Kingdoms side.
I take the port to UC
I fly over the continent seeing areas I've never seen before.
I get to the raid.

It's kind of a moot point to say that traveling via zepp vs port is much different (we've seen all the zep pathing already). Your still going to have to travel from a major city to the raid that could be far away (which is the major part of the trip anyway) or just wait for a warlock summon (making the world smaller right? Maybe they should get rid of lock summons too.)

It's nothing, but an inconvience, and nothing more than that.

This. By keeping the portals, it's not necessarily making anything more or less convenient. What it does allow, however, is an aesthetic choice that players will appreciate. I love Dalaran; the music is epic, the town feels lively and filled with NPCs and bustle, the layout is really nice, there's tons to explore, and it's one of the few remaining neutral territories where Alli and Horde can get along. Now some people might prefer the blood and metal of Orgrimmar, or the dark Halloween feel of UC, and that's cool. In the end, if we all set our hearths in our respective cities, we should all be able to get around reasonably well and choose our base of operations on our personal appreciation of the cities.

TL;DR - everyone thinks the people "whining" are complaining because of convenience, but what about the people who are complaining because they genuinely love the appearance and feel of Dalaran?

[Unferth]

Why should people not whine about it? Its clearly an ill-conceived impulse decision by blizz and was thrown in at the last minute. Its bad game design, poor management and people have a right to complain about it.