Thread: 4.0.1 Warlock DPS (Thoughts)

Originally Posted by jster

So i've been going around some forums recently, mostly this and EJ. From what i've seen as of now (10/7/10) As a warlock (non-demo) it seems like Destruction is the way to go. Even with the nerfs it still seems to be pulling ahead imo.

Spec:
http://wowtal.com/#k=CqyEuQ9.a4d.warlock

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Glyphs:

Prime:
Conflag
Immolate
Incinerate

Major:
Life Tap

------ Other glyphs choices for Major/Minor Don't matter ------

Priority:

Soul Fire (over 80% w/o Buff)
Immolate
Bane of Doom (Bane of Havoc for Multi-Target
Conflagrate
Instant Soul Fire
Chaos Bolt
Searing Pain (If under 50% and aggro CAN handle it)
Incinerate (If over 50% or aggro CAN NOT handle it)

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Notes: (from Gherkin's 4.0.1 Post)
-Summon Infernal/Doomguard when possible for DPS boost.
-Same as demonology for Shadowflame [Shadowflame in Melee = DPS boos]
-Expect Searing Pain to be nerfed or incinerate to be buffed

However i did find that Infernal is more AoE pet DPS while Doomguard is more single target DPS (May be wrong as I am going from memory)

Aggro for Searing Pain:

With Searing Pain crits sub 50% and 250% increased threat, you will be pushing up the aggro meters quickly. You should manage to be fine as long as Soulshatter is used well. If you are pushing threat and can't reduce, you can resume using Incinerate.

Apparently as of now, the Searing Pain crits are a DPS boost compared in Incinerate sub 50% currently. (may be nerfed pre-release)

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As I see mistakes or changes pointed out on forum i will try to update this post.
Last Edit : 10/7/10 5:20 EST

Is searing pain a dps increase over incinerate buffed from backdraft? I mean conflag>incinx3>cbolt>searing pain>refresh immo is the only way I could see casting SP and thats like 1 or 2 casts.

Currently Backlash only procs from Marrowgar's Bonestorm if you're not a retard and don't overaggro. Wouldn't it be better to spec Shadowburn to snipe dying adds to get 3 shards to play with midfight?

Originally Posted by CaspianRoach

Currently Backlash only procs from Marrowgar's Bonestorm if you're not a retard and don't overaggro. Wouldn't it be better to spec Shadowburn to snipe dying adds to get 3 shards to play with midfight?

Who is talking about Backlash though?

I really dont think searing pain will be viable on normal fights, only on fights where aggro isnt an issue.
If it turns out to be, i'm sure it wont stay that way for long anyway.

Oh well it's a shitty spell now for PVE I woulda taken one point in aftermath instead.

Originally Posted by jster

From what i've seen on the other threads Searing pain is currently beating backdraft incin.

Really what other threads?

Originally Posted by Dethh

Oh well it's a shitty spell now for PVE I woulda taken one point in aftermath instead.

"Now" would imply it was good at any point before. And how can you call a spell that gives you free 3 shards "shitty"? Free instant Soul Fires, sup.

Originally Posted by CaspianRoach

"Now" would imply it was good at any point before. And how can you call a spell that gives you free 3 shards "shitty"? Free instant Soul Fires, sup.

NOW I am referring to backlash not shadowburn. Now backlash IS good.

Adds don't provide experience, so shadowburn seems useless to me.
SP doesn't consume Backdraft procs.

Originally Posted by gherkin

Searing Pain, for my tests, was beating Incinerate. However, I've been informed that Incinerate currently does not benefit from Shadow and Flame, which means it's missing some of its damage potential. I believe your rotation to be the correct one Dethh, but I cannot confirm.

If thats the case its pretty clunky and probably not intended. If you are correct about the S&F not buffing incinerate that would make alot of sense. Incinerate hits like a wet kitten atm (compared to other classes main nuke)

agree with cojak, Shadowburn

Instantly blasts the target for 737.53 to 823.38 Shadow damage. If the target dies within 5 sec of Shadowburn, AND yields experience or honor, the caster gains 3 Soul Shards. Only usable on enemies that have less than 20% health.

adds dont give xp or honor so its a pvp/leveling talent, so for 4.0 not really worth spending a point in raid wise

Originally Posted by souldrain

adds dont give xp or honor

Um? No, adds usually do.

Not that it matters, now that Demon Soul doesn't use shards they kinda suck.

Originally Posted by Doomcloud

Um? No, adds usually do.

Not that it matters, now that Demon Soul doesn't use shards they kinda suck.

This is a 4.0.1 thread u can't get xp at max lvl,so unless you get honor from adds .........