<suggestion> Fly Mount Fuel system?

[Gamevizier]

I've been playing WoW since Vanilla...during Vanilla WoW I'd have to say that places were much more exciting, the quests...the travels...and I personally enjoyed Vanilla zones much more than WOTLK and BC. one of the reasons was because there were no flying mounts, you had to mount up and travel from one place to another... or pay a flight master to get you somewhere. with flying mounts you can just mount up and fly wherever you want. is this sort of ease in travel even needed?

and besides...staying up in the sky 24/7 is just silly. that's why I'm making this suggestion thread.

There should be some sort of "fuel" for flying mounts (like a fatigue/breath system) once your flying mount TAKES OFF from the ground you'll see a (Mount Energy) bar which is simmiliar to breath bar on the center of the screen (or under your player frame) your flying mount can stay up to 10-20 mins in the sky without any need to come down and rest.

once your mount comes down the energy bar starts to fill slowly...it may take a full 5 minutes for the energy bar to fill up. which means you need to use your ground mount till the flying mount's energy gets filled (because ground mounts run faster on ground than flying mounts) the mount energy is shared among all flying mounts which means if your Gryphon mount is low on energy...your flying carpet is also low on energy.

this idea also makes the long forgotten ground mounts more useful.

[Barirus]

This sounds a bit like Aion...and its a game, a fantasy game. How can i eat and drink at the same time? shoot fire balls out of my hands? a gnome kill a dragon that is about 100x his size?

[Seasonedbeef]

Flying mount ground speed is 100%, just like normal ground mounts.


Edit: In fact, I remember back before they changed the speed of the non-epic flying mount, it was actually faster on the ground then in the air.

[Rivin]

Ground mounts don't run faster than epic flyers. They both grant 100% extra run speed.

So no, it really wouldn't make ground mounts useful. It would just make people have to land for no reason besides being annoying.

[Deleted]

and lets think... maybe next blizz will start micro transactions of selling fuel to boost you up a bit... Oh wait.. am i talking about warcraft or famville now, i get the two mixed up..

[BaddyMcBad]

Fatigue is a horrible idea.

[Pixelhero]

with flying mounts you can just mount up and fly wherever you want.

Possibly the best thing about Cataclysm, with ground mounts and having to use the flight masters you were limited to how much you could explore, it seems you have a bit of nostalgia fog in your goggles, Anyway, if you find it silly yourself, you can always not use your flying mount.

Guessing you havent played Aion, its just a bitch with a limited amount of flight time.

[T!tania]

They already copied experience for gathering from Aion, that was OK.
But limited flight time is a "feature" that's already annoying in Aion, so i'm glad that WoW doesn't have it...
(While Aion might need this for PvP balance stuff, WoW doesn't allow fighting in the air.)

[veroveraar]

nobody is forcing you to use flying mounts if you dont like to fly just run. You are still the person deciding to use them even though u don´t approve of them.
So on topic: bad idea

[Bizkitz]

"Ok, so I have 400 archaelogy from that last find in the Cape of Stranglethorn, and the only other site nearby is in EPL. Let's fly there!"

*Flying over Arathi*

"Uh... don't slow down! WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU........!"

So, would people plummet to their deaths if they didn't get to ground in time?

Also, it would just be tedious. You're almost at your destination, about to fly over a range of mountains, rather than running around it, and your mount runs out of energy just before you get to them. Now you have to go ALL the way around. Albeit, it may not take much longer than 5 mins

[Duravian]

I've been playing WoW since Vanilla...during Vanilla WoW I'd have to say that places were much more exciting, the quests...the travels...and I personally enjoyed Vanilla zones much more than WOTLK and BC. one of the reasons was because there were no flying mounts, you had to mount up and travel from one place to another... or pay a flight master to get you somewhere. with flying mounts you can just mount up and fly wherever you want. is this sort of ease in travel even needed?

and besides...staying up in the sky 24/7 is just silly. that's why I'm making this suggestion thread.

There should be some sort of "fuel" for flying mounts (like a fatigue/breath system) once your flying mount TAKES OFF from the ground you'll see a (Mount Energy) bar which is simmiliar to breath bar on the center of the screen (or under your player frame) your flying mount can stay up to 10-20 mins in the sky without any need to come down and rest.

once your mount comes down the energy bar starts to fill slowly...it may take a full 5 minutes for the energy bar to fill up. which means you need to use your ground mount till the flying mount's energy gets filled (because ground mounts run faster on ground than flying mounts) the mount energy is shared among all flying mounts which means if your Gryphon mount is low on energy...your flying carpet is also low on energy.

this idea also makes the long forgotten ground mounts more useful.

Ugh, another "old school" vanilla player saying, back in my days we didn't have no flying mounts!we had to spend 6 seconds to get on a ground mount and ride uphill both ways in the sand! Anyway, 10-20 minutes? the flight pathes from N to S of any continent take about 11 minutes and they have to swerve all over the place, this wouldnt really do anything but sometimes get in the way of round trips and such. It would be annoying, people still wouldn't use ground mounts, and it just doesn't make any sense to add something so useless that everyone will complain about into the game. Sorry Mr. Veteran, not gonna happen.

[Glomp]

No.

If you love vanilla so much don't use your flying mount.

[T!tania]

nobody is forcing you to use flying mounts if you dont like to fly just run

This. I also still use ground mounts over short distances, i also don't like the idea of ground mounts disappearing completely and i find it silly to fly 1m above the ground to a spot that's just 100m away. For me, flying mounts are for reaching spots where i can't run/jump/teleport to and for travelling. And travelling over long distances wouldn't be possible anymore if flight time was limited. So this would not only force the use of ground mounts, ppl would also have to use the automatic flight routes again. Which means flying 3 circles around every single tree instead of a straight line like you can do with a flying mount...

Flight masters also probably won't die out without limited mount flight time since a lot of ppl like to go AFK while travelling. But if they need to save time they can do so using their flying mount.

[Dexiefy]

1 thing is sure... going somewhere on a ground mount> goiung somewhere on flying mount... for 1 simple reason... You actually get to enjoy world around you

I personally would like to have 1 expansion w/o any kind of usable flying mounts whatsoever

[Jorick]

Silly idea that would just incite rage. As many others have said, flying is a personal choice. If you really love your ground mount, use it. Nobody is stopping you from being able to do so.

[Duravian]

1 thing is sure... going somewhere on a ground mount> goiung somewhere on flying mount... for 1 simple reason... You actually get to enjoy world around you

I personally would like to have 1 expansion w/o any kind of usable flying mounts whatsoever

Um, yeah see the world around you? what if you're in some valley. Flying mounts let you see everything the world has to offer, high peaks, oceans, lakes, forests all at once. When you're on the ground you aren't going fast. I usually fly pretty low to the ground for extra speed effect, then for fun rise in altitude and it makes it seem like you're really soreing through the skies of a vast open world.

[Srg56]

OP's Post

While i see the potential your idea has, it's not going to happen for reasons i will mention.As the other posters have crudely mentioned trough various chuckle inducing ways, this is a fantasy world, and anything which reduces this ratio of impossible physics vs real world physics is generally frowned upon because of lazyness, the lack of intrest for immersion that the majority of wotlk heroes have and because of the fact that some players enjoy the game for what it is not: a medieval world simulator.

Having said that here are the reasons why this would not work:

1. WoW is not Eve Online. It does not aim to provide a simulation of any sort, it merely describes warcraft lore, being limited by game mechanics, which must exist for the game to become successful in any way.

2. Blizzard initially aimed WoW at a more hardcore audience, since back in those days, casual could not exist in the same sentance with MMO games. Because of that you did not have flying mounts in the first place.

3. The majority of "oldschool" players are gone from the picture.Most of the players that would enjoy such a mount fuel system are not here.What you have these days are pavlovian monkeys trained to spam heroics by a mediocre built gear progress system.

4. Being a casual friendly game (casual meaning time spent ingame and not being "special in the head")WoW will not cater to the horny for PvP ganking type of player who spends his time killing and teabagging players who do not want to participate in PvP combat.

Hoping this post was helpful.

[Sleepless Dreams]

How can i eat and drink at the same time?

Those people at the hot dog eating contests do it.

---------- Post added 2010-10-09 at 11:53 AM ----------

What's even funnier is the fact in FFXIV, fan boys troll people who ask for a Jump command because apparently the ability to jump takes away the realism from the game.

People will ask for something totally unrealistic claiming it would make the game more realistic when the game itself isn't realistic at all.

[Falrinn]

Having a mount fuel system might of been acceptable back in BC when flying mounts were first introduced. However any attempt to go back and add extra restrictions to an existing, well established, system would do little more then cause complaints.

[Eskinor Is Here]

"Ok, so I have 400 archaelogy from that last find in the Cape of Stranglethorn, and the only other site nearby is in EPL. Let's fly there!"

*Flying over Arathi*

"Uh... don't slow down! WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU........!"

So, would people plummet to their deaths if they didn't get to ground in time?

Also, it would just be tedious. You're almost at your destination, about to fly over a range of mountains, rather than running around it, and your mount runs out of energy just before you get to them. Now you have to go ALL the way around. Albeit, it may not take much longer than 5 mins

so true..
PS i like your sig