1. #1561
    Since you mention it I recall that you mentioned it earlier in the thread. Let's hope they fix it before the content is cleared, optimally before the patch hits the live servers.

  2. #1562
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    This is what I got atm:

    Head: [Obsidian Arborweave Headpiece] - [Crown of the Fiery Vanquisher]
    Neck: [Choker of the Vanquished Lord] - Ragnaros
    Shoulder: [Obsidian Arborweave Spaulders] - [Shoulders of the Fiery Vanquisher]
    Back: [Dreadfire Drape] - Lord Rhyolith
    Chest: [Obsidian Arborweave Raiment] - [Chest of the Fiery Vanquisher] + 2200 VP
    Wrist: [Flickering Wristbands of the Windflurry] (384 stam, 256 agi, 170 haste, 170 crit) - Alysrazor
    Hands: [Obsidian Arborweave Grips] - [Gauntlets of the Fiery Vanquisher] + 1650 VP
    Waist: [Riplimb's Lost Collar] - Trash drop + [Crystallized Firestone]
    Legs: [Cinderweb Leggings] - Beth'tilac
    Feet: [Sandals of Leaping Coals] - Majordomo Staghelm
    Finger: [Viridian Signet of the Avengers] - Exalted with Avengers of Hyjal
    Finger: [Widow's Kiss] - Beth'tilac
    Trinket: [Matrix Restabilizer] - Ragnaros
    Trinket: [The Hungerer] - Majordomo Staghelm
    Weapon: [Fandral's Flamescythe] - Majordomo Staghelm
    Relic: [Covenant of the Flame] - 700 VP + [Crystallized Firestone]

    polearm might be 20 dps better than the staff, but fire cat ftw!
    After the wrists, the tooltips start getting messed up(tooltip is displayed as the one for the item above)

    Nvm, seems to be fixed.
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    Still wish they'd change the 4 pc :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenn View Post
    yeah my bad, I should have just said expertise. I think the thing I'm confused about is why is hit and expertise are now better stats, do you stack them over haste until you get to the caps. Also, the simulations being run saying stat priority is haste>hit/expertise>crit>mastery, are these being run from behind the boss or in front? I assume its from behind the boss but if its as I've heard and feral will be spending less time behind the boss is there any way to see stat priorities that include boss parry chance? I'm assuming that this would almost guarantee that expertise becomes the top stat.

    Sorry if this is rambling, retarded or doesn't make sense. Basic summary: reforge expertise/hit before haste until you have a fair amount of it?
    the simulations are run from behind and they do say something like haste>hit/expertise>crit>mastery however if you attack from infront it will be expertise>haste>hit>crit>mastery

    as the value of expertise doubles
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  5. #1565
    Quote Originally Posted by Drathos View Post
    After the wrists, the tooltips start getting messed up
    Sigrie tooltips in the forums (front page works somehow) haven't been working at all for me in a while :/
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    If Majordomo Staghelm is one of the later/harder hc's, won't it make sense to get a polearm and upgrade it with a Crystallized Firestone to be able to get a 391 weapon faster?

    Ofc thats assuming both polearm and Crystallized Firestone are reasonable common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziconilsson View Post
    If Majordomo Staghelm is one of the later/harder hc's, won't it make sense to get a polearm and upgrade it with a Crystallized Firestone to be able to get a 391 weapon faster?

    Ofc thats assuming both polearm and Crystallized Firestone are reasonable common.
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  8. #1568
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    Updated a bunch of stuff to 4.2.

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    Firstly, there is the BiS slot, what reforges will you do and what stat values will that leave you running with, crit%,haste%,mastery,hit,expertise?
    Is the feral 4set an absolute necessary? or how much dps is lost not using the 4 set?
    Just wondered because although you would lose out on a a few shreds per Berserk, wouldn't say increased haste from non-set by increasing the energy regen and number of auto attacks (which will contribute a fair bit more with new SR).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziconilsson View Post
    If Majordomo Staghelm is one of the later/harder hc's, won't it make sense to get a polearm and upgrade it with a Crystallized Firestone to be able to get a 391 weapon faster?

    Ofc thats assuming both polearm and Crystallized Firestone are reasonable common.
    Does make a lot of sense yeah. Firestone is dropped by every heroic boss at least.

  11. #1571
    Trinkets are the only pieces of gear that do not have any DPS numbers attached to them in the original post. Why is this? Also, why exactly is EotC better than PToM? Is the sole reason the fact that crit affects bleeds and the proc staying with them for their entire duration, whereas haste does not? Because, on a general basis, PToM is better due to higher uptime.

  12. #1572
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Updated a bunch of stuff to 4.2.
    Where? I can't see anything on the front page. :/

  13. #1573
    Yes, it's often difficult to see what's new and what's not. Maybe you should start marking the applicable sections or texts which is new, Mihir? Like they do in the patch notes to indicate that something is new.

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    We can't make strikethroughs afaik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    We can't make strikethroughs afaik
    I don't know why the button isn't there, but you can do strikeouts. Wrap the text with [s] (with the appropriate terminator, of course) to achieve the effect.

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    Ah, right. Next time I make some changes ill strikethrough the old stuff

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    so how much haste doesa BiS fireland kitty have?
    like 2200?
    now if both trinkets proc
    2200 + (1730 * 2) = 5660 haste rating lolz i wonder what energy regen that gives :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    so how much haste doesa BiS fireland kitty have?
    like 2200?
    now if both trinkets proc
    2200 + (1730 * 2) = 5660 haste rating lolz i wonder what energy regen that gives :P
    14.4199064 or just: 14.4 energy per second.

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    meh less then i hoped :P, i was thinking of regenrating as much energy as one attack would cost :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steakdozer View Post
    14.4199064 or just: 14.4 energy per second.
    Actually your slightly off:

    Base: 2200 Haste rating = 17.18%
    The Hungerer: 1730 Haste Rating with a 60-64 sec ICD - 13.51%
    Matrix Restabilizer: 1730 Haste Rating with a 100-108 sec ICD - 13.51%

    If both trinkets were proccing at the same time, then you would have 44.20% haste
    In terms of energy regen, your talking about 44.2 Energy-Regen-Per-Sec

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