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    Ideal crit %?

    I want to reforge some crit into mastery but im not sure how much is too much.

    How much crit should I have raid buffed? (new to hunters and just hit 80 the other day)

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    If u just hit 80 the other day then dont bother your gear will get replaced soon so its a waste of money
    but on my hunter i reforged about 400 crit and still had 40%

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    Reforge as much as you like into mastery - it's not going to make much difference right now at level 80; and you are going to replace all of your gear in a couple of months anyway.
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    Reforge haste into mastery first. Stay above 50% crit and you will be fine.

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    What percentage haste (or haste rating) are people generally aiming for? Are they trying to get Steady Shot down to a certain time (like 1.5 seconds?) or are they going for a "700 rating is enough" philosophy?

    I've been hesitant to fool around too much with Reforging because I'm just not sure where to go with it with respect to haste. My hit is pretty much right on the cap, and my crit I reforged to just over 50%. I think right now my SS is at 1.64 (I'm in T10/ICC10 non-heroic gear) and figured it'd be better having that than taking haste away for mastery at this point.

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    Only haste on my gear that I reforged was HWT. Got 53 (im not online so im not 100% sure, its 52,53 or 54% unbuffed crit), 30% haste and 23.12 mastery as MM.

    Seems to be working out alright for me considering the lack of Cataclysm scaling numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thereign View Post
    Reforge haste into mastery first. Stay above 50% crit and you will be fine.
    Mastery > Haste > Crit on movement bosses.
    Dummy wont give you real value of haste.
    Btw, gemming agi and reforging haste is just overkilling crit %.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordenrox View Post
    Mastery > Haste > Crit on movement bosses.
    Dummy wont give you real value of haste.
    Btw, gemming agi and reforging haste is just overkilling crit %.
    Position well, and haste is less important.

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    humm, i reforged every piece of gear i had crit -> mastery and now i have 28.?? mastery and just over 60% crit unbuffed. idk haste just feels important to me.

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    ppl are forgetting that we have a 1 sec gcd now, i think haste is a lot more important than it used to be
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Lets say you have a two 3 inch lines. One is all red and the other is 48% red and 52% blue. Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance they're both red or is the second line matching the all red line by 48%?
    ^^^ Wells using an analogy

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    With 15% haste on gear, in a raid I am at 1.1s StS casts (after Imp SS proc). While focus regen is important, I don't think having much more than 16% is necessary.

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    So you're saying around 16% haste on gear is "good enough"? I'll never be top DPS in a raid because I just can't raid often enough to 1) get the best gear and 2) become incredibly skilled. I just want to make sure that I'm not gimping myself on haste/crit for those occasions when I DO get in a raid and don't want to let the rest of them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thereign View Post
    Position well, and haste is less important.
    Haha. Where is your good position on Putricide, Sindy or LK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixon View Post
    humm, i reforged every piece of gear i had crit -> mastery and now i have 28.?? mastery and just over 60% crit unbuffed. idk haste just feels important to me.
    Either you are lying or math doesnt work.
    28 mastery means you have 20 mastery from gear. 1 mastery requires a bit more than 45 mastery rating but lets just say 45. That means you reforged 900 crit rating. As we know, you can reforge 40% of a stat. That means that according to what you say you had 2250 crit rating from gear. 140 cri rating PER ITEM. Good luck finding that gear in WotLK (hint: you cant get that much)

    Realistically, you can realistically get to 23 mastery AT MOST. That means sacrificing 14-15% of your crit - and still you had over 60% crit unbuffed? I am not buying that, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepfriedegg View Post
    Haha. Where is your good position on Putricide, Sindy or LK?[COLOR="red"]
    Putricide, I tend to avoid other players, and unless I am on Plague duty, I just stand and do my own thing, avoiding Malleable and feigning any targeting by oozes.

    Sindy P1 I just stand and spam, generally timing instants for when I am being sucked in, then immediately disengaging and using instants. P2, stand in the middle at the open, and as soon as the first tomb goes down, I go stand immediately next to it, as soon as I am at 3 stacks, I hop behind it for one blast, then move to the tail while firing instants.

    LK is simple really, unless if you are going HM, then dispells jack everything up. Time focus pooling for when you will be moving due to defile.

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    45-50% crit minimum is about right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thereign View Post
    Putricide, I tend to avoid other players, and unless I am on Plague duty, I just stand and do my own thing, avoiding Malleable and feigning any targeting by oozes.

    Sindy P1 I just stand and spam, generally timing instants for when I am being sucked in, then immediately disengaging and using instants. P2, stand in the middle at the open, and as soon as the first tomb goes down, I go stand immediately next to it, as soon as I am at 3 stacks, I hop behind it for one blast, then move to the tail while firing instants.

    LK is simple really, unless if you are going HM, then dispells jack everything up. Time focus pooling for when you will be moving due to defile.
    Whilst I agree that you can avoid moving alot on PP and synd - H LK is a different story, constannt shadow traps could really prove to be a problem - whilst I haven't been into ICC Post-patch (And quite frankly I dont plan to), H LK will prolly be the only fight that will mess you up movement wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepfriedegg View Post
    Haha. Where is your good position on Putricide, Sindy or LK?

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    Either you are lying or math doesnt work.
    28 mastery means you have 20 mastery from gear. 1 mastery requires a bit more than 45 mastery rating but lets just say 45. That means you reforged 900 crit rating. As we know, you can reforge 40% of a stat. That means that according to what you say you had 2250 crit rating from gear. 140 cri rating PER ITEM. Good luck finding that gear in WotLK (hint: you cant get that much)

    Realistically, you can realistically get to 23 mastery AT MOST. That means sacrificing 14-15% of your crit - and still you had over 60% crit unbuffed? I am not buying that, sorry.
    Maybe he's still completely crit gemmed.

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    Has the haste cap for hunters changed since the patch? I know that the value of haste has changed. I Am sitting at about 544 haste (16.56%) and my mastery is about 10% (Sux) If the haste cap is still the same then i should be ok. But i just don't know anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limpy View Post
    Maybe he's still completely crit gemmed.
    ol' armory isn't updating for alot of people - myself included and I regemed about 5 mins after the servers went up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunasaladin View Post
    Has the haste cap for hunters changed since the patch? I know that the value of haste has changed. I Am sitting at about 544 haste (16.56%) and my mastery is about 10% (Sux) If the haste cap is still the same then i should be ok. But i just don't know anymore
    Steady Shot has a 2.0s cast time. You need 33% to make it 1.5s.
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