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    References to non-Warcraft people and/or characters?

    Check.

    Dramatic background used to hype cliche revenge story?

    Check.

    What's the problem here, people? BUSINESS AS USUAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Do you actually know what "Mary Sue" means?
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue

    Well even TVtropes can't pinpoint a precise meaning for Mary Sue.
    The most commonly accepted meaning for a Mary Sue is a Clichéd and poorly written character that is either made way too important (more important than the actual plot as in), steals the role of a major character (is better than legolas as at archery through just "natural Talent" for example).
    An author 'Pet' or a over-idealised Author avatar and is more commonly used.
    The trope originates from fanfics (as in non-canon fiction by fans.)

    (although the trope Canon Sue has spawned into being as of late - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CanonSue)


    Unfortunately the most commonly used, and completely wrong defintion is ANY character that you personally do not like.

    ---------- Post added 2010-10-19 at 05:25 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Explosion_Rex View Post
    The only reason she even exists is because Blizzard didn't want to redo Scarlet Monastary. So there are still some Scarlets around after the Cataclysm and we still have a reason to go to the Monastary and kill them. I doubt she'll ever even end up in any higher level story arcs.
    Such as The PLAGUELANDS?
    where she has a small story arc already.

    ---------- Post added 2010-10-19 at 05:29 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by BagOfChips View Post
    Are people seriously arguing about fictional characters? ...
    Have you ever been to any WoW forum before, that is all people do.
    Well 3 main things:
    1 Flame wars
    2 Argue about fiction
    3 Whine incessantly

    though you do get the occasional insightful topic, especially speculation on non-stupid topics (every topic by Dark Side and his friends are prime examples of brilliant lore speculation topics.)
    And the occasional funny or interesting topic about something of no connection to lore or class changes or WoW changes.
    and the occasional lore piss-take topic, such as rhonin diaries and the like.


    Man I need to learn how to stop writing Walls of text.
    Last edited by GeorgeParty; 2010-10-19 at 06:36 PM.

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    Yeah, she's also in Plaguelands... or more accurately, there are some dead bodies that she may or may not have been responsible for offscreen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeParty View Post
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue

    Well even TVtropes can't pinpoint a precise meaning for Mary Sue.
    The most commonly accepted meaning for a Mary Sue is a Clichéd and poorly written character that is either made way too important (more important than the actual plot as in), steals the role of a major character (is better than legolas as at archery through just "natural Talent" for example).
    An author 'Pet' or a over-idealised Author avatar and is more commonly used.
    The trope originates from fanfics (as in non-canon fiction by fans.)

    (although the trope Canon Sue has spawned into being as of late - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CanonSue
    Thanks for the lecture... but my question was sarcastic.
    Unfortunately the most commonly used, and completely wrong defintion is ANY character that you personally do not like.
    And that's exactly what I'm talking about. People don't like Sylvanas (most likely because she's a badass unstoppable bitch and dresses in black) and they know that "Mary Sue" is used against characters that they aren't supposed to like, ergo, anything that they don't like, they call "Mary Sue". Ignorance.

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