Elemental and Legendaries

[Drrax]

Finding out that the new legendary is going to be a staff kinda upsets me as an ele shaman. Every other caster can get away with using a staff but for us our BiS has always been a 1h+shield. Are there any elemental shamans currently on beta that have looked at some of the gear and think that a staff may be viable? I realize that with a legendary a proc always comes with it and hopefully that proc is enough to make up for the lack of a shield.

[Trivial]

There is absolutely nothing wrong in using a staff for PvE. Nothing at all.

[Spl4sh3r]

I don't see why Shamans think they are forced to use a shield just because they can.

[Rakeer]

ive used a staff on my ele sham for ever.

[Cerus]

Finding out that the new legendary is going to be a staff kinda upsets me as an ele shaman. Every other caster can get away with using a staff but for us our BiS has always been a 1h+shield. Are there any elemental shamans currently on beta that have looked at some of the gear and think that a staff may be viable? I realize that with a legendary a proc always comes with it and hopefully that proc is enough to make up for the lack of a shield.

You do realize that was a joke right? They were giving that person a hard time because they were being a smartass like most of the people who asked questions. You can't take anything they said as 100% fact.

[Drrax]

Sure shamans can use staffs but name a time that your BiS was in fact a staff over a 1h+shield.

[Lolsteak]

Sure shamans can use staffs but name a time that your BiS was in fact a staff over a 1h+shield.

When they made a Legendary staff..

[Arteous]

many raid leaders/guild leaders have the opinion .. well mages can't use shields so you get a shield and 1h .. mages get the staff .. like it or not.

[Gistwiki]

Sure shamans can use staffs but name a time that your BiS was in fact a staff over a 1h+shield.

The 245 level. H Enlightenment was stronger for Elemental than any combination of MH/OH except for H Misery's End + H Bastion of Purity, and if either of them didn't drop for you, then you were stuck with a staff for BiS.

[BicycleMafioso]

Legendary or not, no staff will touch my shaman.

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The 245 level. H Enlightenment was stronger for Elemental than any combination of MH/OH except for H Misery's End + H Bastion of Purity, and if either of them didn't drop for you, then you were stuck with a staff for BiS.

Then, per definition, it wasn't BiS. Best in Slot means just that; Best.

[Gistwiki]

Legendary or not, no staff will touch my shaman.

Then, per definition, it wasn't BiS. Best in Slot means just that; Best.

Fine. We'll go back to T6. Zhar'doom was slightly stronger than Hammer of Atonement/Felstone Bulwark.

Edit: While you may try to turn this argument into how we've gone an entire expansion without having a staff as a best in slot piece, I'll remind you that there has been all of 2 staves from raid content this expansion with stats that we want. I'll also remind you that there haven't been very many best in slot staffs in general for any class this expansion. MH/OH has trumped staffs for everyone for nearly every raid tier and it's high time we had a legendary turn that around.

[kiraleon]

Legendary or not, no staff will touch my shaman.

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Then, per definition, it wasn't BiS. Best in Slot means just that; Best.

then you will never be the best

[Pandra]

Ideally staffs are not BiS for anyone but I'm gonna assume since it is a legendary it might be pretty good and better than any one hander+shield combo out there. But hey if you do not want it I am sure no one in your guild will argue with you =D

[Kashii]

I'd die a little inside if a Shaman got a dps caster legendary staff

[Gistwiki]

The only other option to make it available to all casters is to make it a dagger, and while I'm not against that, Blizzard doesn't have a thing for making small legendaries. On top of that, a giant dagger is dangerously close to an oxymoron.

[Walkingsteak]

I don't see why Shamans think they are forced to use a shield just because they can.

For that plain and simple reason - shields can be enchanted - theyre better than an offhand with the exact same stats.

[Munk]

many raid leaders/guild leaders have the opinion .. well mages can't use shields so you get a shield and 1h .. mages get the staff .. like it or not.

This argument applies only to situations of non-bis for 99.99% of the guilds out there.

Yes council type guilds tend to give armor priorities a nod but where BiS is concerned more often than not its just bases on who is more deserving or a /roll.

[Drrax]

I really could care less what is as long as it truly is a caster legendary meaning that it is going to be good for all casters and the guilds will then have to choose their top dps casters to give it to. Hopefully with a lot of the hybrids buffs being tossed around to that of pures the dps positions will be a lot closer to one another meaning that this legendary is fair game to the best caster of a guild, not by class but by skill.

But who knows what will happen I guess we will just have to see(might not even be a staff)

[1kchickenmojhitas]

Well I doubt a shield would be better than a legendary, why would bliz set it up liek that

[shocktopuslol]

if you seriously thought a shaman would get a legendary over some other class you need to wake the fuck up