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    New meta requirements suck

    It counts int spirit gems as red gems aswell as blue.. so if you have any spellpower/haste gems at all.. your screwed and you will never tip the balance between them..

    i have 20 gem slots in my gear.. and i just wasted 2k gold finding out that spellpower spirit gems dont count as blue gems. because they also count as red gems..

    i cannot imagine why blizzard did this.

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    Er...hybrid gems count as both. They even say so right in the tooltip. If you had all intellect/spirit gems in every slot, you'd have the exact same number of red and blue.

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    So, you mean you've been playing this game at least one entire expansion and did not realize that a gem that counts as two colors counts as two colors?

    We know what group of players you'll fall under when the real action starts in Cataclysm.

    By the way, that's not a change. Split gems have always counted as both colors. It has even, forever, said "counts as both a red gem AND a blue gem".

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    I really hope this is a troll TBH :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixdown View Post
    We know what group of players you'll fall under when the real action starts in Cataclysm.

    By the way, that's not a change. Split gems have always counted as both colors. It has even, forever, said "counts as both a red gem AND a blue gem".
    Exactly. But this wasn't the point of the QQ - it is:
    Chaotic Skyflare Diamond
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    Requires more Blue gems than Red gems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixdown View Post
    So, you mean you've been playing this game at least one entire expansion and did not realize that a gem that counts as two colors counts as two colors?

    We know what group of players you'll fall under when the real action starts in Cataclysm.

    By the way, that's not a change. Split gems have always counted as both colors. It has even, forever, said "counts as both a red gem AND a blue gem".

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    He's probably on the servers now asking where the portals in Dal went.... and why he can't fly....
    And as to more blue than red requirements, just toss a single all blue in there and you are good, amirite?

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    maybe everyone should take a moment to read the item/gem tooltip the OP is talking about before jumping to conclusions?

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    This might not be a popular opinion at all, but IMO this meta setup is better, because it makes us gem in a direction that takes secondary stats seriously, instead of just a trivial exercise in stuffing your primary stat everywhere and doing the bare minimum just to activate the meta.

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    I'm annoyed about the change to the Agility meta, which is the same as the Chaotic Skyflare Diamond posted above. Requires more blue gems than red gems. Seriously?? Even when I match socket colors, I don't have more blue gems than red. Thanks, Blizz. -_-
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    The original poster was pretty bad at describing his problem, but what I think he's trying to say is that the NEW (yes, it's new) meta requirement of "requires more blue than red", etc, doesn't work well with hybrid gems. He knows hybrid gems count as both, and therein lies the problem when you try to meet the new meta requirements while using hybrid gems. That said - don't be a newb, guy, just put a pure blue gem, or a green gem somewhere, and your problem is solved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porktacos View Post
    He knows hybrid gems count as both, and therein lies the problem when you try to meet the new meta requirements while using hybrid gems.
    If he knew they counted as both, he wouldn't have spent all that gold on gems that he would've known wouldn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porktacos View Post
    The original poster was pretty bad at describing his problem, but what I think he's trying to say is that the NEW (yes, it's new) meta requirement of "requires more blue than red", etc, doesn't work well with hybrid gems. He knows hybrid gems count as both, and therein lies the problem when you try to meet the new meta requirements while using hybrid gems. That said - don't be a newb, guy, just put a pure blue gem, or a green gem somewhere, and your problem is solved...
    thats exactly what i was trying to get across..

    I actually just swapped out metas for something else.

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    That's a bit strange, why would they do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underdogba View Post
    This might not be a popular opinion at all, but IMO this meta setup is better, because it makes us gem in a direction that takes secondary stats seriously, instead of just a trivial exercise in stuffing your primary stat everywhere and doing the bare minimum just to activate the meta.
    I always Gemmed for Socket Bonus... No matter what it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    You mean that you won't mindlessly gem your #1 stat any more and actually have to think about gemming?

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    If he's talking about the requirements for metas changing then he should probably say he's annoyed by the changes to the metas in his post. Not that he's annoyed that split gems count as two colors. When that's not a change and has existed since the beginning of Burning freaking Crusade.

    As for the meta requirements, it's an easy fix if you know half of what you're doing.

    Step 1. : Reforge your hit to haste (until capped) or crit.
    Step 2. Gem straight hit (blue gem now) in blue sockets.
    Step 3. Watch as your meta magically works again.

    Wow. That was so freaking hard. Like, for realz yo.

    People have been griping about his change now for weeks and it's not even news. And it's not going to "OMG GIMP MAH MAD DEEPZ YO WTFBBQ". You'll lose, at most, what...100 spellpower? Yeah....seriously, people. The sky isn't falling. Stop acting like Chicken Littles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDragon4275 View Post
    I always Gemmed for Socket Bonus... No matter what it was.
    That doesn't mean it was the optimal thing to do though. With this change it makes people think about their gemming instead of just gemming for your #1 stat except for the two blue gems you need for your meta. It's not like it's that much harder anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porktacos View Post
    That said - don't be a newb, guy, just put a pure blue gem, or a green gem somewhere, and your problem is solved...
    You need to put a blue or green gem for every red or orange gem in your gear, plus the additional blue you mentioned. So if you have a yellow socket, and used a orange gem, you also need a blue/green gem to get that fixed.
    This requesite is simply retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Condriano View Post
    That's a bit strange, why would they do this?
    For shits and giggles

    Really hope they change it back or something. This looks a bit wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sicness View Post
    That doesn't mean it was the optimal thing to do though. With this change it makes people think about their gemming instead of just gemming for your #1 stat except for the two blue gems you need for your meta. It's not like it's that much harder anyways.
    I never said it was Optimal. :P Just that I did it. I'm anal.
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