Divine Storm...?

[MrAzullMoro]

So divine storm shares a cd with crusader strike now, right? Then why doesn't it have a guaranteed chance to give a holy power? If it's replacing crusader strike in our rotation, then it only seems fair, IMO. Any thoughts?

[Rivin]

It's not replacing Crusader Strike. DS is an AoE-only ability. For single targets/bosses, you'd use CS.

[swissaccount]

because it's aoe and all aoe got nerfed

seriously, it's way better than before when it was eating holy power

[Badpaladin]

It's not replacing Crusader Strike in the rotation, it's the go-to AoE spell designed such that you sacrifice HP generation for AoE. In other words, no free AoE which follows their design philosophy just fine.

[MrAzullMoro]

Yeah, makes sense, 40% chance seems fair enough for AoE now that I think about it. Keep forgetting that it hits all targets now.

[Nintendork]

It used to replace Templar's Verdict in an aoe situation, considering they both used Holy Power. Now you can just spam it for aoe damage.

[Badpaladin]

I think the DP effect will only affect four targets(don't quote me on that), but even then that's pretty damn nice.

edit:

2 targets -> 36% chance not to proc a HP
3 targets -> 21.6% chance not to proc a HP
4 targets -> 12.96% chance not to proc a HP

I also think they would keep it so that if one target proc'd a HP they'd nix any other Hp gains from that DS, because getting a full HP bar from one DS would be insane.

[MrAzullMoro]

It replaces Templar's Verdict in an aoe situation, considering they both use Holy Power.

Nah they changed DS to share a cd with cs, and just do 80% weap damage to all targets within 8 yards.

[belfpala]

I think the DP effect will only affect four targets(don't quote me on that), but even then that's pretty damn nice.

edit:

2 targets -> 36% chance not to proc a HP
3 targets -> 21.6% chance not to proc a HP
4 targets -> 12.96% chance not to proc a HP

I also think they would keep it so that if one target proc'd a HP they'd nix any other Hp gains from that DS, because getting a full HP bar from one DS would be insane.

Just to expand on this, my understanding from EJ is that DS is not even worth using unless there are 5 or more targets. Edit: Although that calculation might have been when it was 60% damage. It might be 4 targets now.

Edit again: testing on some level 60 dummies seems to show 40% HP proc no matter how many I'm hitting

[Deleted]

At least DS is worth speccing for PvP again as a stealth breaker. Until now there was nothing you could do even if you knew that bastard rogue was sneaking around you.

[Vasti]

The real question is:
Why does Divine storm still light up when HoL procs?

[iktankniet]

The real question is:
Why does Divine storm still light up when HoL procs?

i bet they havent changed that yet. Itll take some extra time with the other changed to the paladin class they are making :P

[Daymanmb]

At least DS is worth speccing for PvP again as a stealth breaker. Until now there was nothing you could do even if you knew that bastard rogue was sneaking around you.

Oh my! What would you have done as a ret in vanilla/TBC?(pop perception DUH!) But honestly both holy wrath and consecration are both fairly effective at removing stealthies from stealth just in time to see them sprinting away from you

[Ronark]

I also think they would keep it so that if one target proc'd a HP they'd nix any other Hp gains from that DS, because getting a full HP bar from one DS would be insane.

They resolved that in the first major "class changes" Beta build- Before, DS had a chance to gain HPower on each target, and not on a per-cast basis.