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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    you don't have that? Huh. I would get 8000 from csn if I chose to. Without studielån that is. Fairly okay. I mean I can life off of that.
    http://www.csn.se/hogskola/hur-mycke.../belopp-heltid

    that is my sweden :P

    granted if you call a loan for "getting paid", sure lots of monniz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Organoth View Post
    Other cases can be good in terms of their cooling options be the fact still remains that no case has as much to offer for air cooling as the HAF X. Other cases either lack dedicated GPU cooling, have less efficient front intake or fewer options for exhaust. Some cases in just one of those areas while others lack in several. Again that is not opinion, it's fact, those other cases offer less air cooling options.
    It's easy to tell this isn't fact, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    (Warning: I'm drunk by now)
    Really, the hddtrays? I wouldnt have figured. Seeing as they are quite rigid. Sorry to hear about the front. That's a fault of shipping and not the case itself, though. As mine is still intact.

    I would recommend a FD Arc Mini for mATX tbqh. I'm coloured and impressed by it, I admit. But it is a fantastic case /shrug
    The GTX 600 series are also looking quite amazing.
    If Nvidias words are true (= don't count on it. Afterall the GTX 580 was what the GTX 480 was announced to be in terms of CUDA cores enabled and TDP value and performance, before they had to strangle its performance) the GTX 660 equiv will be quite a significant improvement over the GTX 580.
    Seeing how nVidia are slated to build their Kepler bottom up, it's a very very good move by them.

    I will wait until mid june or whenever and try to go for the GTX 680 in SLI if the funds continue to tick in at the pace they currently are (ie, I got a job. And in Sweden, you get paid to study rather than pay to. Even if it's only 1200 USD a month)
    The Define cases are generally like that though, my Define Mini is a bit of a bugger with the HDD trays as well, though they aren't really that bad.

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    Man, I didn't realize SSDs were that tiny! It's literally a 1/4th the size of the normal 3.5" HDD I have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Man, I didn't realize SSDs were that tiny! It's literally a 1/4th the size of the normal 3.5" HDD I have!
    generally they are the same size as 2.5" laptop drives, they can be smaller, but 2.5" is a good standard form factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    you don't have that? Huh. I would get 8000 from csn if I chose to. Without studielån that is. Fairly okay. I mean I can life off of that.
    Hooray socialism?

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    Since we're on the topic of SSD's....
    So I received the laptop (finally) and I boot it up, only to be faced by the store demo screen that required a password to remove - with no instructions on the CD or anything that came with it to tell me the password. Got into safe-mode and got rid of the store demo.

    This thing came loaded with literally 20-25 pointless programs. I've heard of "laptop bloatware" but seriously? So much?? The entire Cyberlink suite, an MS Office that hasn't been activated, Google Chrome, Bing/Google/Yahoo/Ask toolbars (are you fking kidding me?) and countless other stuff I can't remember. The CPU runs at 68-78c under WoW (apparently that's quite cool for a laptop) and already felt super-sluggish compared to my desktop in terms of speed/responsiveness.

    This laptop is literally crying out for a clean rebuild on an SSD, so I'm hunting for a 120-128gb. I have the following options, going in price/per GB from lowest to highest:

    Kingston SSDNow V100 128GB
    Kingston SSDNow V200 128GB
    Intel 320 Series 120GB
    Corsair Force 3 Series 120GB
    Crucial M4 128GB

    Now before you yell "hurr durr go for the M4/Force3 of course!", there is a very high chance I'll be limited to Sata II speeds, I don't expect this laptop to be running a 6gb/s interface inside, so an M4/Force3 will be choked on the interface. SSD's aren't about raw sequential speeds anyway. Anyone have any input on those SSD's, especially the Kingston? I've heard very little about Kingston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Since we're on the topic of SSD's....
    So I received the laptop (finally) and I boot it up, only to be faced by the store demo screen that required a password to remove - with no instructions on the CD or anything that came with it to tell me the password. Got into safe-mode and got rid of the store demo.

    This thing came loaded with literally 20-25 pointless programs. I've heard of "laptop bloatware" but seriously? So much?? The entire Cyberlink suite, an MS Office that hasn't been activated, Google Chrome, Bing/Google/Yahoo/Ask toolbars (are you fking kidding me?) and countless other stuff I can't remember. The CPU runs at 68-78c under WoW (apparently that's quite cool for a laptop) and already felt super-sluggish compared to my desktop in terms of speed/responsiveness.

    This laptop is literally crying out for an SSD, so I'm hunting for a 120-128gb. I have the following options, going in price/per GB from lowest to highest:

    Kingston SSDNow V100 128GB
    Kingston SSDNow V200 128GB
    Intel 320 Series 120GB
    Corsair Force 3 Series 120GB

    There is a very high chance I'll be limited to Sata II speeds, I don't expect this laptop to be running a 6gb/s interface inside (hence no Crucial M4). Anyone have any input on those SSD's, especially the Kingston? I've heard very little about Kingston.
    Force 3 would be limited by the interface as well.

    Also, you should see the awful amount of programs HP put on my DM1z... enough to considerably slow it down. ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asera View Post
    Force 3 would be limited by the interface as well.
    You're right, but I'm getting great price/GB for it.

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    Honestly, I'm surprised the 320-series is less than the Force 3 over there.
    Either way, I run the 320-series 160GB in my notebook.
    Don't get fooled by performance numbers alone. It feels more responsive and faster than my Corsair Force F60 (~= Vertex II) sitting in my desktop despite having worse numbers to show for it, in everything except wow-loadingscreens, where it's only about twice the speed of my Spinpoint f3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    You're right, but I'm getting great price/GB for it.
    True, they are very well priced. xD

    I got my 120GB Force 3 for a little over $120 CAD. xD (Refurbished, but it's working fine after a few months now!)
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    Xuvial, I'm pretty sure that usually a SATA III SSD on SATA II will still perform better than most SATA II SSDs. Plus if you can get one for a great deal, why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Xuvial, I'm pretty sure that usually a SATA III SSD on SATA II will still perform better than most SATA II SSDs. Plus if you can get one for a great deal, why not?
    Eh, my old Vertex II performs about the same as the Force3 did in my notebook. Might be a limitation of the system itself though, since it's an E-350. Force 3 performs miles ahead on the desktop though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Xuvial, I'm pretty sure that usually a SATA III SSD on SATA II will still perform better than most SATA II SSDs. Plus if you can get one for a great deal, why not?
    I'm pretty sure, no. :P With overhead, it's still ~the same.

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    Oh, wow. I was wondering why I had so much money.

    You guys wanna know why? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go:
    I ordered my goods on the 17th. But they never actually took my money... till yesterday. What the bleeding motherf--?!

    And I have yet to go get my new monitor, because goddamn mail were being twerps about it. Sent from Oslo two days ago early in the morning. But it didn't get sent from Stavanger to my city before the day after. Then finally, despite there being a literal 2 hour ride between here and Stavanger, and it being shipped from Stavanger 9:30 AM, they still didn't receive it... before today.

    I swear to god my childhood self can't hold a candle to the rage I've got now. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Oh, wow. I was wondering why I had so much money.

    You guys wanna know why? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go:
    I ordered my goods on the 17th. But they never actually took my money... till yesterday. What the bleeding motherf--?!

    And I have yet to go get my new monitor, because goddamn mail were being twerps about it. Sent from Oslo two days ago early in the morning. But it didn't get sent from Stavanger to my city before the day after. Then finally, despite there being a literal 2 hour ride between here and Stavanger, and it being shipped from Stavanger 9:30 AM, they still didn't receive it... before today.

    I swear to god my childhood self can't hold a candle to the rage I've got now. :|
    /cleaving time
    Did you happen to get it shipped via UPS? Because over the last few days I've come to realize just how awful they are.

    I ordered a squishable narwhal, and UPS decided to ship it to Dartmouth College, near Boston, Massachusetts instead of Dartmouth, NS. Now I am waiting for the real delivery which was supposed to be yesterday, but they never came.
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    Bare with me here, want to help this guy make his rig even better. :P

    Stock cooler on a [email protected]... RoG motherboard... Thermaltake LitePower 700w... 6870.... Acer 1080p 27"....

    Why? Stock coolers not only look dumb, but they are terrible at heat dissipation, and for 4.4GHz I would not suggest anyone use a stock cooler. Stock coolers are for going up to 4.0GHz if you simply don't have the budget to get yourself a Hyper 212+ or Corsair A70. It's apparent to me that I don't think you really know what you were buying when you made this purchase (if you already made it.)

    A 1080p 27" monitor is generally frowned upon, much less it being a TV...

    Seeing as how this is likely a gaming build, I think you really made some poor choices when it came to certain parts, certain parts whom you'll never make full usage of.

    For instance, an i7-2600K, for $100 less you can have a CPU that is just as powerful in games, the i5-2500K. That $100 alone could go towards a Radeon 6950 or an NVidia GTX 560 Ti, either of which would be improvements over a 6870, which, while a good card and even better Xfire'd, just does not pair up well with a 2600K+Maximus IV, it will bottleneck the CPU, no doubt.

    We then get to the incredibly overkill motherboard, which while is an mATX, is still rather expensive for the form factor and I know I and some others feel the Maximus IV Gene-Z mATX seems like a fake Maximus, since they are supposed to be big, honking motherboards with tons of features and PCIe slots for expansion, but this pretty much takes that all away yet still asks some $170, whereas you could get just as good an mATX motherboard for far less.

    I personally would not have gone for that power supply for 2 reasons, one I don't trust Thermaltake for almost anything, especially power supplies as I hear about more issues with theirs than anyone else's. 2 because 700 watts is a ridiculous amount of wattage for a 2600K+6870... so I'm really wondering why you opted for this, it almost feels like it's an ibuypower.com system. I would suggest a good 550-650 watt PSU from Seasonic, Silver Stone, Corsair, or Antec, personally.

    I really would urge you to either switch to a 2500K+6950/560 Ti, or if you drop to a different mATX motherboard you could even up to a 6970 or 570, which would be an even nicer pairing with the CPU. Hell a 2500K+6870x2 system would actually work really well here, since you have the 2xPCIe 8x lanes available to you. Course you could just drop the CPU to the 2500K, keep the 6870, and drop the motherboard down a bit and get yourself a sweet 60-90GB SATA III SSD. Hope it's not too late for these changes, I think you'd be much happier! Unless you plan to do rendering, then half the stuff I suggested is moot.

    Edit: Woohoo post #5,000 in the Post your gaming setup thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asera View Post
    Did you happen to get it shipped via UPS? Because over the last few days I've come to realize just how awful they are.
    This would possibly have been the case if Norway was a part of the States, but it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    This would possibly have been the case if Norway was a part of the States, but it's not.
    I thought UPS had service worldwide like Fedex and DHL.
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