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    Blah so I broke down and instead of waiting for haswell decided to replace my i5 750 so ordered some new parts. Got me:
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    asrock extreme 4 (with free 8gb ram) didnt get it for this reason lol but well see how well it works with my ram i have lol if not Ill just continue using my old ram.
    and a Samsung 830 128Gb

    no reason to replace my other parts really and I dont feel like dropping the money for a badass video card just yet. Only wanted to spend about about 500. Will get new pics after I get my build redone in my case here in a week or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    To be honest, I still can't figure out why people would spend more then 300 dollars on a graphics card, the games I have been playing recently all run smooth as butter at near max settings.
    Correct, the games you have been playing
    Not the games I have been playing, i.e. Crysis 2, BF3 and GW2 on a 120hz monitor. Theoretically I would need nothing shy of GTX670 SLI to crank out the 100-120 fps (minimum!) @ max settings in the first 2 games :P
    Also as Deltrus said, at 1400/1440p = performance takes a skydive unless you have a card that can really pull it's weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by demonskies View Post
    Blah so I broke down and instead of waiting for haswell decided to replace my i5 750 so ordered some new parts. Got me:
    3570k
    corsair h60
    asrock extreme 4 (with free 8gb ram) didnt get it for this reason lol but well see how well it works with my ram i have lol if not Ill just continue using my old ram.
    and a Samsung 830 128Gb

    no reason to replace my other parts really and I dont feel like dropping the money for a badass video card just yet. Only wanted to spend about about 500. Will get new pics after I get my build redone in my case here in a week or so.
    Fair move mate, waiting for Haswell would have probably been painful...but the HD5870 will remain your primary bottleneck in almost any game bar stuff like WoW. One thing at a time I suppose

    Also I doubt Haswell chips will exactly topple benches in gaming, with SB/IB the GPU still remains the primary bottleneck even with a GTX690.
    And it will continue to stay that way till we see a true monster of a GPU (GK110 maybe?) that literally yells at the CPU "hurry up bitch, give me more frames to render or I'll eat you alive!" Then maybe we'll have a good reason to upgrade from SB/IB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Correct, the games you have been playing
    Not the games I have been playing, i.e. Crysis 2, BF3 and GW2 on a 120hz monitor. Theoretically I would need nothing shy of GTX670 SLI to crank out the 100-120 fps (minimum!) @ max settings in the first 2 games :P
    Also as Deltrus said, at 1400/1440p = performance takes a skydive unless you have a card that can really pull it's weight.
    i.e. dat 384-bit membus!!!

    Also, idk what 1400p is, but a 2560x1600 resolution is I think the other resolution you were thinking of. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Why do they spend $300+ for a GPU?
    2560x144 and 120Hz displays. That's why.

    7950 - Just above 300USD USD Guru3D BF3 Crysis 2

    GTX 660 Ti - Just above 300 USD Guru3D BF3 Crysis 2

    So for those of us who only plays at 60FPS+, 300USD for a GPU is not the max i would spend on a 1920x1080 60HZ Monitor to run the newest games.
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    I was giving the most overkill reasons. -.-
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    So finally I can add a decent machine to the list on here got the parts in today and put it together at work right now it's downloading a billion updates gw2 and rift lite but at least everything works

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    Compared to my dual core 2 gig ram computer I just upgraded from this thing should be a beast... Unfortunately I just get to sit here and watch it download lol

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    Really, really happy to see SSD's becoming standard in desktop gaming builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Not the games I have been playing, i.e. Crysis 2, BF3 and GW2 on a 120hz monitor. Theoretically I would need nothing shy of GTX670 SLI to crank out the 100-120 fps (minimum!) @ max settings in the first 2 games :P
    Wuuut? My Single 670 does at least 100 fps @ BF3 using FXAA :X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    49c load? Wow, very nice.
    Also those 6870 idle/load temps look really wonky, how on earth do they only differ by 5c...I'm thinking drivers!
    my 6870 hawk is the same. it's 57C idle and it only goes a little over 60C in full load on a 950mhz/1200mhz overclock. it seems really strange seeing as it's automatically down clocked to 300mhz core at idle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Really, really happy to see SSD's becoming standard in desktop gaming builds.
    Really happy to see their prices drop to some things that are reasonable.

    Soon, Raid0 gaming standard? ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaace View Post
    Really happy to see their prices drop to some things that are reasonable.

    Soon, Raid0 gaming standard? ^^;
    No point in using Raid0 for games, imo. A single SSD is all you should ever need for games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protput View Post
    No point in using Raid0 for games, imo. A single SSD is all you should ever need for games.
    i have 2 in raid 0. but sometimes i feel like i should of gone with a single 512gb =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by protput View Post
    No point in using Raid0 for games, imo. A single SSD is all you should ever need for games.
    In the next year or so, I expect that SSD's will start replacing mechanical drives for most purposes. Their higher reliability rates and performance should be reason enough to start ditching mechanical drives for solid state. As larger capacities become cheaper, I'd say in the next 5 years we won't even have mechanical drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    In the next year or so, I expect that SSD's will start replacing mechanical drives for most purposes. Their higher reliability rates and performance should be reason enough to start ditching mechanical drives for solid state. As larger capacities become cheaper, I'd say in the next 5 years we won't even have mechanical drives.
    As much as I wish it was true, I highly disagree. We're going to be using platters for a long time yet.
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    Mechanical storage, defragmentation aside, is still my favourite kind of storage.
    It lasts.
    Want to save something? Take your hard drive, put it in a drawer. Get one of those USB->Sata cables/stations.
    Can't trust discs, they spontaneously combust. With hard drives, if you treat them good, they won't break without notice.

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    I don't need storage that lasts. I just need it to be fast.

    I don't have much value for my data. There is nothing important on those hard drives. That's all stationed on USB flash drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Mechanical storage, defragmentation aside, is still my favourite kind of storage.
    It lasts.
    Want to save something? Take your hard drive, put it in a drawer. Get one of those USB->Sata cables/stations.
    Can't trust discs, they spontaneously combust. With hard drives, if you treat them good, they won't break without notice.
    You would be surprised, one of my friends has had two hard drives less then 2 years old die within the last two weeks. At least the manufacturers cover their asses with 3-5 year warranties, but still, I don't trust all my data to a mechanical HDD. I have had drives last over 5 years before, which means they were of good quality, but considering how much faster technology is advancing in every area of computers right now, I am concerned that quality and durability when it comes to drives lasting might become an issue. That said, I'd not touch a Seagate drive with a 10 foot pole these days, at least Western Digital drives last and are built like tanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    I don't need storage that lasts. I just need it to be fast.

    I don't have much value for my data. There is nothing important on those hard drives. That's all stationed on USB flash drives.
    My entire music collection and bought TV episodes and movies are stored on a mechanical drive, stuff that would take me months to acquire again due to my bandwidth limitations, so yeah I really care about the durability and long life of a hard drive.

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    Were they used internally, or were they in a drawer sometime? If the first, my point still stand.

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    What if you drop it on your way to the drawer? SSD could take it.. And last just as long if kept in a drawer.

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    3 major things need to happen before SSDs replace mechanical drives:

    1. Cost per GB needs to be equal or close to it. Everyone's storage requirements simply can't shrink to accommodate a full transition.
    2. Reliability improvements. Currently, SSDs are only more reliable in theory, not practice. Firmware issues (and in turn drive failures) are way, way above the MTBF of a mechanical.
    3. OS and hardware support need to be massively improved. Currently there's a lot more hoops that one has to jump through to get an SSD running optimally both in the OS and on a hardware level. Using the correct SATA port / controller on the mobo, setting AHCI and disabling a handful of Window's features via the registry editor and buried advanced settings dialogues are all things that the average consumer would be completely lost in doing.
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