Medivh what a freakin tard...

[Davrun]

I just did black morass, yeah i know im 4 years late, anyways Medivh was the reason why orcs came to azeroth?? freakin tard... opening the portal for them.. whats his deal anyway? isent he human? why would he do such a thing..

[Dark Side]

IIRC, he was possesed. If not, chances are when the legion attacked, they would have conqured azeroth with ease. It took the full force of the alliance, horde, and night elves to fend off the legion. Trust me bro, it was for the best

[mickybrighteyes]

You clearly missed that part where he was the birth child of a pair of mages and a demonic overlord. Medivh was part Aegwynn, part Nielas Aran and quite a bit part sargeras. Guess which part had control of the summoning ritual.

[Deleted]

Aran was a bad ass boss in karazhan!!

[Deleted]

Top of your screen, wowpedia search for Medivh it explains it all there.

But basically Sargaras used his avatar to fight Medivh's mother Aegwynn, she thought she won but it was a clever trick for him to hide his power inside her and he then possessed Medivh when he was born.

So basically it was Sargaras using Medivh to open the Dark Portal not just Medivh being an idiot :]

[Triggers]

He was corrupted by the Burning Legion, along with the orcs on the other side.

I think

[Davrun]

You clearly missed that part where he was the birth child of a pair of mages and a demonic overlord. Medivh was part Aegwynn, part Nielas Aran and quite a bit part sargeras. Guess which part had control of the summoning ritual.

Yeah i read somewhere that he has alittle sargeras blood in him, why would the humans let him live? They should have known what he was capable of.. And why the f.. do we help him succeed in black morass....

[Zoma]

Yeah i read somewhere that he has alittle sargeras blood in him, why would the humans let him live? They should have known what he was capable of.. And why the f.. do we help him succeed in black morass....

That was answered in the first reply to this thread. Because if he failed, Alliance wouldn't exist and the Horde would be on draenor, so the Burning Legion would just steamroll Azeroth.

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Just occurred to me, Sargeras controls the Burning Legion, and the Legion failed because Sargeras brought the Horde to Azeroth, so he pretty much screwed himself over.

[Davrun]

That was answered in the first reply to this thread. Because if he failed, Alliance wouldn't exist and the Horde would be on draenor, so the Burning Legion would just steamroll Azeroth.

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Just occurred to me, Sargeras controls the Burning Legion, and the Legion failed because Sargeras brought the Horde to Azeroth, so he pretty much screwed himself over.

So the Alliance was formed after Medivh opened the portal?, well the "orcs" would been on draenor not the rest of the horde.

[Dark Side]

So the Alliance was formed after Medivh opened the portal?, well the "orcs" would been on draenor not the rest of the horde.

In WCIII, its seen that Thrall basically united the members of the horde. He made friends with Bloodhoof and Vol'Jin, and the undead had nowhere else to go so they joined thrall. Without thrall, i bet even the troll and tauren would be fighting. The caverns of time make us do things we really dont want to do, but you have to do it because screwing with the timeline could have dirastic consequences...hypothetically at least

[Derpdederp]

Yeah i read somewhere that he has alittle sargeras blood in him, why would the humans let him live? They should have known what he was capable of.. And why the f.. do we help him succeed in black morass....

We help him succeed because the gold dragon flight is neutral, and because of that it doesn't care what happens to us, they just stopped the infinite from altering time. We weren't really helping him succeed, we were just stopping the infinite dragon flight from destroying the main time line.

OT- Medivh was possesed. Hur de dur.

[Dark Side]

That was answered in the first reply to this thread. Because if he failed, Alliance wouldn't exist and the Horde would be on draenor, so the Burning Legion would just steamroll Azeroth.

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Just occurred to me, Sargeras controls the Burning Legion, and the Legion failed because Sargeras brought the Horde to Azeroth, so he pretty much screwed himself over.

Even the titans are fallable

[Deleted]

Just occurred to me, Sargeras controls the Burning Legion, and the Legion failed because Sargeras brought the Horde to Azeroth, so he pretty much screwed himself over.

So he did, just kinda ticked over in my brain too, horde never came to Azeroth then he would have rick rolled them hardcore lol

[Davrun]

Hmm but if Medivh never did what he did, the wars would never have happend, the orcs would have never left draenor... that doesnt seem so bad..

The whole cavern of time creeps me out tbh.. And the dragons seemse so unwilling to give us answers.. They just: do that, or its game over for us all.. Saving Thrall from durnholde keep was epic, and Thrall is badass, but near the end the whole dragon shit gave me chills, and then wiping out their memories.. crap..

[Dark Side]

Hmm but if Medivh never did what he did, the wars would never have happend, the orcs would have never left draenor... that doesnt seem so bad..

The whole cavern of time creeps me out tbh.. And the dragons seemse so unwilling to give us answers.. They just: do that, or its game over for us all.. Saving Thrall from durnholde keep was epic, and Thrall is badass, but near the end the whole dragon shit gave me chills, and then wiping out their memories.. crap..

No, the wars wouldnt have started. But the world wouldnt have lived that much longer anyway. Im not kidding, the legion would have just steamrolled over everything if it werent for medivh opening the dark portal

[Davrun]

No, the wars wouldnt have started. But the world wouldnt have lived that much longer anyway. Im not kidding, the legion would have just steamrolled over everything if it werent for medivh opening the dark portal

The alliance would been more of capable of keeping the legion back.

[MaraMash]

All this talk about time travel makes me want to watch Back to the Future...

OT: Yeah, in some twisted way it was good that Medivh opened the portal. The Horde we know now simply wouldn't exist without that happening. I'm sure if you went through the questlines and read the quests, or at least looked up some brief lore on WoWpedia, you wouldn't have to ask around for answers.

[Vongimi]

The quest that leads you to black morass says that if medivh failed to open the portal, the kingdoms of azeroth would have descended into war with each other over different disputes, thus would have be far to weak to fight off the legion by themselves.

[Dark Side]

The alliance would been more of capable of keeping the legion back.

Whys that? What makes you think that the alliance would have been militarilly prepared to defend themselves against hordes of demons?

[Davrun]

Whys that? What makes you think that the alliance would have been militarilly prepared to defend themselves against hordes of demons?

First of all, how would the legion find their way to azeroth without the portal?

In an all open war alliance vs horde, the alliance would win pretty comfortable. The alliance has a better military, tactics, boats, weapons, technology and the list goes on.

With no orcs in azeroth, important lives from the wars would still live, and things would been better, for the alliance.
Im not an alliance fanboy, i like the horde, but The alliance is some lvls above the horde when it comes to this.