Healers complaining alot

[Construct]

I for one am really sick of seeing healers complaining, both in trade chat, in instances and on forums. I have many healer friends who play the game, as well as guildys, and i know alot of healers on my server, somehow they are able to still heal just fine. yes it may be difficult at times for them, and they have to actually do what dps and tanks do, which is Prioritise spells, but they are getting through cataclysm just fine. Quite a few of my guildys are geared from heroics now, have all their badge gear etc and all the gear they need from heroics, and they have all said, once you get some gear, it becomes Significantly easier to heal, yes they may still go oom a bit, especially if they dont cast the right spells, or if people fuck up, but they arent really having any trouble anymore. So if 90% of the [people i know can do it, which cant everyone, seriously to all you healers out there who are QQIng, no one cares, go learn how to pay or quit, because the game would be alot better without you.

Btw, this is coming from a bear Tanks perspective.

[Deleted]

I don't think its healers QQing and its a bit disrespectful to tell the no one cares since they actually hold your life in their hands .
I do think however its mostly them trying to get the point across.. I.e if they repeat just how crazy healing is now, people might slow down and take into account CC and marking etc..

And from an elemental shaman who's just entering heroics, healing is hard. Looking at it from the DPS pov i've had to stop on a few bosses to cast a few heals across the tank myself, due to some of the numbers that they are taking (last i heard, getting a crit heal above 20k was rare.. factor in your health and how much the mobs hit and yeah, healing is hard now seriously).

[Deleted]

They QQ because healing Heroics with 329 ilvl is horrible.

When you get 340+ Ilvl it gets alot better, espes with good trinkets.

But try heal with a holy priest in a hard HC, with 329-330 ilvl. And come back to me and say you are healing fine

[hambonee]

I for one am really sick of seeing healers complaining, both in trade chat, in instances and on forums. I have many healer friends who play the game, as well as guildys, and i know alot of healers on my server, somehow they are able to still heal just fine. yes it may be difficult at times for them, and they have to actually do what dps and tanks do, which is Prioritise spells, but they are getting through cataclysm just fine. Quite a few of my guildys are geared from heroics now, have all their badge gear etc and all the gear they need from heroics, and they have all said, once you get some gear, it becomes Significantly easier to heal, yes they may still go oom a bit, especially if they dont cast the right spells, or if people fuck up, but they arent really having any trouble anymore. So if 90% of the [people i know can do it, which cant everyone, seriously to all you healers out there who are QQIng, no one cares, go learn how to pay or quit, because the game would be alot better without you.

Btw, this is coming from a bear Tanks perspective.

Hmm..as a healer I would offically request that all the stupid DPS stop QQing cause they stood in the fire and die....
Also, Stop QQing tank and use your cool downs and move the boss when it is standing in flaming goo instead of standing there.

Healers of the world could officially care less about your QQ...we don't care...go learn to play..

OP..this was a stupid post....just thought I would try and mimic it..it hurt my brain...

[Mossmantle]

I'm tired of people complaing about healer complaints.

[Mourbid]

Sorry, let me grab my Gibberish to English dictionary so I can understand the post.

It's not the spell prioritizing is hard...it's dealing with stupid dps pulling aggro and/or tanks that can't hold aggro. That's where all my mana goes. AoE from mobs doesn't bother nearly as much as 5 mobs attacking 4-5 different people. Is healing more difficult? Of course. Healing was a joke in WotLK (at least in dungeons).

I've had more trouble with bad tanks and dps than any healer I've been grouped with (I've been tank, dps and healer in instances).

And if you don't care, why did you even make this post? And, to quote you, "go learn how to pay or quit, because the game would be alot better without you."

...what? I don't know what that means but I was amused enough by it to do that. :P

[bigjohnburger]

GTFO construct u noob, go try to heal then speak you piece of trash. No one cares what your miserable life has to say.
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[Construct]

I'm tired of people complaing about healer complaints.

Touche

And Hambonee are you retarded? thats a serious question btw, In my groups no matter what make up we have, we try and cc everything possible, it makes the run alot smoother and means the healer has less downtime between pulls because they dont have to heal as much and can regen a bit even in trash packs, Also i use a cooldown every pull, weather it be barkskin, Survival instancts, frenzied regen or a trinket, on the initial pull, when there is usually 1-3 mobs up. And if i WAS standing in fires on boss fights i wouldnt be at the stage i am, you must be retarded if you couldnt understand that from my post.

And to Angry ant, i understand that healing in ilvl 329 blues may be difficult, but why are all the healers crying about it, im sick of it, and i know Alot of people are also sick of it. I think (and this is just an opinion) that people are so used to qqing, and getting their way from blizzard, they think crying will make them change it, well guess what guy, blizzard isnt going to change it, people are getting through heroics just fine, they arent going to change them just so u can play a game where all u need to do is headbut your keyboard and you win.

[Smoopie]

My only problem with cata so far is that if you play a dps or tank nothing has really changed for you as far as the game goes.

If you play a healer you are pretty much in OHH shit mode 75% of the instance, things are hitting hard your spells hit for shit and now you're out of mana.

I mean yah you can get through them, but if you are a dps the only thing that changed is now you are accountable for your mess ups, for the most part your rotations stay the same and now you have a kill order (like tbc). As a tank you have to work a bit harder than woltk but honestly that hasn't changed much either.

I'm sure everything will be fine with some more gear, but right now I've given up on disc healing for a while

[Tryinmilkme]

I for one am really sick of seeing healers complaining, both in trade chat, in instances and on forums. I have many healer friends who play the game, as well as guildys, and i know alot of healers on my server, somehow they are able to still heal just fine. yes it may be difficult at times for them, and they have to actually do what dps and tanks do, which is Prioritise spells, but they are getting through cataclysm just fine. Quite a few of my guildys are geared from heroics now, have all their badge gear etc and all the gear they need from heroics, and they have all said, once you get some gear, it becomes Significantly easier to heal, yes they may still go oom a bit, especially if they dont cast the right spells, or if people fuck up, but they arent really having any trouble anymore. So if 90% of the [people i know can do it, which cant everyone, seriously to all you healers out there who are QQIng, no one cares, go learn how to pay or quit, because the game would be alot better without you.

Btw, this is coming from a bear Tanks perspective.

You sir/ma'am, need to pull your head out of your pompus hind quarter.

I have played healer, tank, and dps for years and can tell you that there is a big difference between a dps qq-ing because they are doing 500 less dps than another class and healers legitamatly conserned about not having the mana/healing power to keep the raid up.

And in case you didn't know, Bear tanks are extremely good class right now so it is easy to keep you up and the fact that vengance is making tank dps borderline outragous tanking is the easiest thing in the game now.

[conceit2]

As a Holy priest with ilvl 336 I have to say that the new healing might be fun/more challenging, but it is also VERY tiresome if you do it a couple of hours in a row. Trust me.

But like all other things it's a matter of getting used to. For instance, in wotlk(4.0.1), I always forgot to use my chackra, LK would die anyway, but now in cata I actually need the extra crit and HW:Serenity. Serenity is instant cast, our cheapest heal and heals more than normal heal, so I kinda can't live without chackra anymore :>

[Saethwyr]

Sorry, let me grab my Gibberish to English dictionary so I can understand the post.

It's not the spell prioritizing is hard...it's dealing with stupid dps pulling aggro and/or tanks that can't hold aggro. That's where all my mana goes. AoE from mobs doesn't bother nearly as much as 5 mobs attacking 4-5 different people. Is healing more difficult? Of course. Healing was a joke in WotLK (at least in dungeons).

I've had more trouble with bad tanks and dps than any healer I've been grouped with (I've been tank, dps and healer in instances).

And if you don't care, why did you even make this post? And, to quote you, "go learn how to pay or quit, because the game would be alot better without you."

...what? I don't know what that means but I was amused enough by it to do that. :P

this pretty much, healing is very challenging at the moment and i just ask everyone who doesnt play a healer to just try it, understanding is the first stage of acceptance

[openair]

Its very simple. If you only run heroics with competent guildies/friends healing is still very easy. If you run randoms with drunk tards who blame the healer when they stand in fire, aoe, ect, or simply dont understand a bosses mechanics (try healing first boss sfk in a clueless pug), or out a pathetic 4-6k dps because they're too busy watching tv or making a worthless attempt to help the healer with their whole 1k hps making the fight take just long enough to actually oom the healer heroics become very frustrating.

A healer effectiveness has more to do with the the willingness of the rest of the group to avoid dmg then anything else.

[Construct]

Guys seriously, holy crap, i UNDERSTAND that healing is difficult, i havnt said it isnt, i said it got Easier than it is when u start out once u get to 340+ item level, when you have all your badge and heroic gear.

I completly understand, i have had long talks with guildys about it, and we have had to change the way we play, because we got lazy in wotlk.

btw i played a healer for a while in vanilla and all of BC so i know how to heal and i know what its like, whilst they may not be as bad as cata, i still know what hardcore healing is like, especially healing BT when it came out, and BWL AQ etc.

Once again, I understand that healing is hard. What i dont like is seeing healing Crying about it all the time. You guys that have posted here are propably the people that dont cry but want people to know just how hard it is. and i understand.
But i still want all these bad healers to stop crying because its getting really boring.

[Deleted]

I for one am really sick of seeing healers complaining, both in trade chat, in instances and on forums. I have many healer friends who play the game, as well as guildys, and i know alot of healers on my server, somehow they are able to still heal just fine. yes it may be difficult at times for them, and they have to actually do what dps and tanks do, which is Prioritise spells, but they are getting through cataclysm just fine. Quite a few of my guildys are geared from heroics now, have all their badge gear etc and all the gear they need from heroics, and they have all said, once you get some gear, it becomes Significantly easier to heal, yes they may still go oom a bit, especially if they dont cast the right spells, or if people fuck up, but they arent really having any trouble anymore. So if 90% of the [people i know can do it, which cant everyone, seriously to all you healers out there who are QQIng, no one cares, go learn how to pay or quit, because the game would be alot better without you.

Btw, this is coming from a bear Tanks perspective.

I'll stop QQing when you learn to play, to interrupt, to not stand in aoe, to kill adds, to kite where appropriate, to use cc.....
I for one and f'ing fed up with people trying to play like in wrath then moaning when i oom trying to keep their noobish asses alive.

Maybe healers are QQing for a reason, try listening to them.

[thatguy181]

To all healers, from a healer...

If you're running out of mana, there's numerous problems that have occured. You may pick any or all of these potential problems.

You're a bad healer. Go read elitistjerks, read some guides, do something. Learn how to heal. These aren't your WotLK heroics where you just spammed one heal.

Your group is bad. There's nothing you can do if your group doesn't use CC and/or interrupt mobs with high damage abilities. When the mob's cast bar for holy fire is so long you could fall asleep during it, it's a sign that it's a REALLY bad spell. Interrupt early, interrupt often, interrupt whenever possible. Demand CC on all pulls. Yes, the tank can handle 2 mobs beating on him, you can even keep him alive though it may be taxing. Imagine if instead you Hexed that second mob or that second mob was sapped... Now you need only spam your efficient heal and you'll finish the fight with nearly full mana.

if you're running out of mana, regardless of whate class you are... something is going terribly wrong. You need to determine if it's you or the group. If it seems to happen with every group you go in... it just may be you.

[trhemp]

Healing is actually good now. Its the people who played healers in Wotlk and not in BC or Vanilla that may struggle. The need to adapt to change or leave. Crying wont get you anywhere. Once you get some gear they become much easier. First day of Heroics, 2 bosses down all day. I just couldnt keep people alive. Now im clearing them (still with a few wipes). Get some gear, run normal 85 dingeons for ilvl 333 gear then do heroics...... its not omg lvl 85, heroics here i come.

[Deleted]

And from an elemental shaman who's just entering heroics, healing is hard

ROFL! I'm not surprised!

[Terranullis]

I'm tired of people complaing about healer complaints.

I'd have to agree with this guy.

Anyway to give you an idea, Im a resto druid, my rejuvenation costs me 4.5k atm, lets say were doing an aoe heavy fight and my EFF and WG aren't doing enough im gonna start having to use rejuvs @ 4.5k ea, which is 22.5k to heal the whole party about 1/3 to 1/2 their health, which is about 1/4 of my mana, I can't afford wasting it on people standing in the fire.

[Deleted]

ROFL! I'm not surprised!

Learn to read, i said from a DPS PoV in the very next sentence.

Honestly, some people just want to troll for the sake of trolling. Well done for looking like an idiot after trying to make someone else look like one.

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Again, i think its just people trying to drill in how hard healing is now. They might be over doing it, but honestly give it a go. I'm scared witless to try it on my Disc priest and a friend is also scared to try tanking now with the changes to healing... So the whole over QQing might make some people go "Uh, maybe its hard and we should be moar cafulz lul"