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    WoW ended with Arthas

    He's been the central character in warcraft since the game even had a story. His death was supposed to be meaningful and amount to something, but nothing would have changed if he was still alive. Not only is this terrible story progression, its showing that wow, like so many other franchises, has nothing more to tell but side stories until the dev team awakens from their 10-year slumber.

    Heres to waiting for warcraft 4


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    im glad this is turning into a discussion.

    people say arthas is just a side character in the warcraft series.

    Arthas and his scourge:

    - led Illidan to the skull of gul'dan, causing the events which lead to BC.

    - RELOCATED both the entire alliance and the horde forces

    - crippled the burning legion enough to prevent another invasion RoC

    - had 2 warcraft games centered around him
    Last edited by jimmyjingle; 2010-12-20 at 09:07 PM.

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    Arthas was a side character in WC3, the latest of the Warcraft rpg games, and not even the most important one unntil the expansion. There is a lot more characters and stories to tell in the Warcraft universe. Those who believe it started and ended with Arthas, is blind.

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    Arthas was not in WC1 or 2.....

    The Warcraft Lore does not revolve around arthas.
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    If you believe Warcraft can continue without Arthus as seen from your last statement then why does WoW have to die? Heck, what role did Arthus play before Wrath? WoW existed fine before Arthus and will do so after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjingle View Post
    He's been the central character in warcraft since the game even had a story. His death was supposed to be meaningful and amount to something, but nothing would have changed if he was still alive. Not only is this terrible story progression, its showing that wow, like so many other franchises, has nothing more to tell but side stories until the dev team awakens from their 10-year slumber.

    Heres to waiting for warcraft 4
    Obviously you haven't played any other Warcraft game but WC3/TFT. You should pick up the first two. They aren't centered around Arthas at all.
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    Only people who believe this are the ones who only played WC3 and the latest expansion. There is a lot of warcraft before Arthas.

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    The character who got kicked in the balls the most is Kael'thas. He was severely diminished in WoW. His 5-man appearance went a step further and bent him over the pinball machine.

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    "Not only is this terrible story progression..."

    You do know that ALL stories end, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Dalliah- View Post
    So you're saying that warcraft 1 and 2 didn't have a story?

    Warcraft didn't start with Arthas and it won't end with him.
    It's like saying that the Lotr movies ended with Boromir dying.
    Boromir died??? Thanks for ruining the movies for me!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjingle View Post
    He's been the central character in warcraft since the game even had a story.
    The Horde and Alliance were trading blows long before the name Menethil was ever mentioned.

    Arthas was one of many speed bumps along WoW's path.

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    You obviously played WC3 and only WC3, go read some books, read some lore on wowwiki and play the other 2 warcrafts before making threads about things you think you know.

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    Warcraft 2 was the best, you should really play it. Don't let the graphics hold you back, it's a very important game in the WoW series, the first one Warcraft 1 is kind of hard to play now, it is difficult as far as RTS go, but the cave missions in WC1 are pretty cool as well and quite challenging or at least I remember them to be.

    But yeah Warcraft 2 is amazing, there is ships, naval battles, huge wars, and most importantly a lot of lore and basically the entire basis for the Alliance/Horde relationship in Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjingle View Post
    He's been the central character in warcraft since the game even had a story. His death was supposed to be meaningful and amount to something, but nothing would have changed if he was still alive. Not only is this terrible story progression, its showing that wow, like so many other franchises, has nothing more to tell but side stories until the dev team awakens from their 10-year slumber.

    Heres to waiting for warcraft 4
    This shows you have no knowledge of the game you play.

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    This is annoying, how can someone have been attached to Arthas in wc3, we played him for like 6 MISSIONS in the human campaign, as a good guy. Sure, when he went DK i was like :O a bit, but that was it, then 14 more missions in the undead campaign + Frozen Throne. Arthas was a "new character", go play wc1 and wc2, Deathwing was in there. You also have to get through your thread that stories progress and new lore will ALWAYS be added, and that's an AMAZING thing, you can't just act on old lore, before Wc3 there weren't even Night Elves, one of the most lore-rich races or even your precious Arthas.

    Seriously, OP, get your facts straight before you start a thread.
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    Also, go read the War of the Ancients trilogy then come back and reiterate that everything revolves around Arthas again. He might play a big part in this chapter of the WoW story but that's about it.

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    i edited the original post. Also, warcraft 1 had no story, and there is no comparing the story in warcraft 2 to warcraft 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    Arthas was a side character in WC3, the latest of the Warcraft rpg games, and not even the most important one unntil the expansion. There is a lot more characters and stories to tell in the Warcraft universe. Those who believe it started and ended with Arthas, is blind.
    Arthas was far from a side character in WC3. He was the main focus of a full half of the game, the only character to be so (Thrall for 25% and Tyrande for the rest). His decision to ignore the warnings of Frostmourne paved the path for The Frozen Throne, World of Warcraft, and all subsequent expansions. The Forsaken race wouldn't exist if not for him leading the Scourge in the first place (or more rightly, having torn Sylvanas' soul from her body). I'm not saying that Arthas was the crux of the entire world, but he played a huge part and left quite a legacy.

    To those who remark that he didn't exist in WC1 and WC2 - WC1 is pretty much garbage when it comes to lore; it was the first game with a barely fleshed-out story that was retconned in so many ways it's not worth listing. WC2 was a little more spot-on, but even that game has frequently fallen to the retconn hammer. The story as you see it now, in WoW, is based off of WC3 and the novels with tie-ins from the first two games.

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    Fact: Deathwing was in Warcraft 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjingle View Post
    He's been the central character in warcraft since the game even had a story. His death was supposed to be meaningful and amount to something, but nothing would have changed if he was still alive. Not only is this terrible story progression, its showing that wow, like so many other franchises, has nothing more to tell but side stories until the dev team awakens from their 10-year slumber.

    Heres to waiting for warcraft 4


    edit:

    im glad this is turning into a discussion.

    people say arthas is just a side character in the warcraft series.

    Arthas and his scourge:

    - led Illidan to the skull of gul'dan, causing the events which lead to BC.

    - RELOCATED both the entire alliance and the horde forces

    - crippled the burning legion enough to prevent another invasion RoC

    - had 2 warcraft games centered around him
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