Looking to buy new PC, need suggestions

[Zanez]

I'm not very techy and know little about computers, despite playing one all day . So was looking for some reccomendations, as im going to be buying a new PC, i have around £600, which i know isnt a large amount for a comp but its all i got, and my current comp is complete **** >.<.

it needs to be a comp that will run WoW very well with High fps ect

thnx

[Naroul]

CPU: i5 760
Motherboard: Asus Sabretooth P55
Memory: Mushkin Blackline DDR3 1600 (2x2gb)
Cooler: Corsair H70
GPU: Nvidia GTX 460, or a Radeon HD 6850/6870 (nvidia has been proven to perform better in WoW)
HDD: Samsung 1TB F3
PSU: Corsair AX750
Case: CM Storm Sniper, or a Corsair 600T

That should do it for you.

[Asera]

(nvidia has been proven to perform better in WoW)

Please inform of this proof?

[Naroul]

Please inform of this proof?

The huge benchmark Toms hardware did. Pitting Intel vs AMD and Nvidia vs AMD.

Intel / Nvidia combo came out well on top for Cataclysm.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ance,2793.html

It was also front page news on this very same site. There's your proof

[Nejji]

CPU: i5 760
Motherboard: Asus Sabretooth P55
Memory: Mushkin Blackline DDR3 1600 (2x2gb)
Cooler: Corsair H70
GPU: Nvidia GTX 460, or a Radeon HD 6850/6870 (nvidia has been proven to perform better in WoW)
HDD: Samsung 1TB F3
PSU: Corsair AX750

That should do it for you.

Good build, however I think it's a bit over the top for what the OP's asking, especially considering the H70. Also, a power supply better suited for the needs of that build would be an Antec TruePower New 550 watt.

[Naroul]

It'll hit right in his ballpark in price, maybe a tad more expensive. I've also always had much better luck with the Corsair PSU's than the Antecs, hence my recommendation. Also the AX series is carrying a gold cert.

H70 was put in place, simply in case overclocking becomes something he wishes to dabble in, and it's a lot quieter.

[Dexiefy]

CPU: i5 760
Motherboard: Asus Sabretooth P55
Memory: Mushkin Blackline DDR3 1600 (2x2gb)
Cooler: Corsair H70
GPU: Nvidia GTX 460, or a Radeon HD 6850/6870 (nvidia has been proven to perform better in WoW)
HDD: Samsung 1TB F3
PSU: Corsair AX750

That should do it for you.

everything is nice, but he doesnt need h70 if he doesnt intend to overclock, which obviously he wont as he mentioned he isnt techy...
Stock cooler is more than enough, cant see a reason to spend money on water cooling if you intend to run processor on stock clocks...

also 750W psu is overkill for gtx460/hd6850 system...
im running at 550W corsair with Gigabyte SOC gtx470...

[Asera]

The huge benchmark Toms hardware did. Pitting Intel vs AMD and Nvidia vs AMD.

Intel / Nvidia combo came out well on top for Cataclysm.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ance,2793.html

It was also front page news on this very same site. There's your proof

I figured.

That benchmark is bogus because they force settings through drivers, which is known fact to create a severe performance loss on Radeon cards. The cards are on par with settings done in game.

Also that benchmark is bogus because flying through twilight highlands != the rest of the game.

Pretty well every regular on this forum will tell you the exact same thing.

[Naroul]

I figured.

That benchmark is bogus because they force settings through drivers, which is known fact to create a severe performance loss on Radeon cards. The cards are on par with settings done in game.

Also that benchmark is bogus because flying through twilight highlands != the rest of the game.

Pretty well every regular on this forum will tell you the exact same thing.

Ok... I'm not bashing AMD at all. Although it has been shown time and time again, that the newer nvidia 400 and 500 series are beating the AMD cards in all price categories.

Now if you want real world numbers fine. Before I added my second GTX 580, I would get an average of 35 more FPS during 10 man raiding with full blown AOE, vs my other comp with an AMD 6970. Actually to the put I sold the 6970 because it was lackluster.

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everything is nice, but he doesnt need h70 if he doesnt intend to overclock, which obviously he wont as he mentioned he isnt techy...
Stock cooler is more than enough, cant see a reason to spend money on water cooling if you intend to run processor on stock clocks...

also 750W psu is overkill for gtx460/hd6850 system...
im running at 550W corsair with Gigabyte SOC gtx470...

So you're saying that he might not take an interest in the near future, since he now has a performance based build?

I always prefer water over air, it's quieter, and more efficient.

[Nejji]

It'll hit right in his ballpark in price, maybe a tad more expensive. I've also always had much better luck with the Corsair PSU's than the Antecs, hence my recommendation. Also the AX series is carrying a gold cert.

H70 was put in place, simply in case overclocking becomes something he wishes to dabble in, and it's a lot quieter.

Antec makes very good units as well (except for the Basiq line) but I can understand personal preference. Gold certification is nice however that is only for efficiency, and although the AX series are very good units, the one I posted is also a strong performer but has a price and wattage much more relevant to the OP's needs.

[Naroul]

Antec makes very good units as well (except for the Basiq line) but I can understand personal preference. Gold certification is nice however that is only for efficiency, and although the AX series are very good units, the one I posted is also a strong performer but has a price and wattage much more relevant to the OP's needs.

I tend to build for room to improve. Sometimes people get bit on the bug and may wish to go SLI, where then you now have the head room. I'd rather have more PSU than not enough

[Nejji]

I tend to build for room to improve. Sometimes people get bit on the bug and may wish to go SLI, where then you now have the head room. I'd rather have more PSU than not enough

This is true, however, the OP states that he doesn't know much about computers so I doubt that he'd ever attempt it. :P

[Naroul]

This is true, however, the OP states that he doesn't know much about computers so I doubt that he'd ever attempt it. :P

We all were there once Not to sound like I'm debating, but one doesn't really need to know a lot about computers to be able to dedicate a few hours reading an overclocking guide on the Intel i series processors, and spend a day or so tweaking .

Besides a lot of these tower air coolers are made with really poor quality these days.

[Zanez]

CPU: i5 760
Motherboard: Asus Sabretooth P55
Memory: Mushkin Blackline DDR3 1600 (2x2gb)
Cooler: Corsair H70
GPU: Nvidia GTX 460, or a Radeon HD 6850/6870 (nvidia has been proven to perform better in WoW)
HDD: Samsung 1TB F3
PSU: Corsair AX750
Case: CM Storm Sniper, or a Corsair 600T

That should do it for you.

thanks for the reply, is there anywhere particular i could find this? I have had a look on google but as i dont exactly know what im looking for :P its a bit tough!

[Naroul]

thanks for the reply, is there anywhere particular i could find this? I have had a look on google but as i dont exactly know what im looking for :P its a bit tough!

Well, you're over seas, or else I'd recommend Newegg etc.

[Zanez]

Well, you're over seas, or else I'd recommend Newegg etc.

yeah im in the UK, ive been looking on novatech.com but all the specs mean absolutely nothing to me, and i cannot find anything like the one you linked me

[Deleted]

Hey Zanez,

I wasn't sure if you found yourself a good website for PC parts yet.

I've got roughly the same budget as yourself and im UK based. I found a real good website, but since im not allowed to link at the moment, just type in overclockers to google and its the first result 'Overclockers UK'.

They even do bundles specific for playing WoW, Im personally looking at the 'Cataclysm Hellscream' bundle.

Enjoy

[Asera]

Ok... I'm not bashing AMD at all. Although it has been shown time and time again, that the newer nvidia 400 and 500 series are beating the AMD cards in all price categories.

Now if you want real world numbers fine. Before I added my second GTX 580, I would get an average of 35 more FPS during 10 man raiding with full blown AOE, vs my other comp with an AMD 6970. Actually to the put I sold the 6970 because it was lackluster.

Considering WoW doesn't support SLi, nor does it scale well with any makeshift profile, I highly doubt you got a 35 fps increase by adding a second GTX580 with a 6 year old graphics engine.

Of course the 6970 would be lackluster, the card isn't meant to compete with the 580. It's supposed to compete with the 570, and you pitted 2 580's against one 6970 and instantly labeled it as lackluster? Don't post garbage like this unless you know how to benchmark properly and not spread misinformation and BS to people asking legitimate questions.

Edit: Show me this 'time and time again' where nvidia cards beat ATi cards in the same performance bracket in WoW consistently enough to make a difference regarding price differences and power efficiency.

[BicycleMafioso]

Wait a month until the i5-2500k is reliably availible.

Considering WoW doesn't support SLi

AFAIK, although WoW doesn't get any significant increase compared to other games, WoW does get a slight benefit if you don't run windowed.
I read that about both CF and SLi having a slight support from a review some weeks ago, who referenced comments from ATI and nVidia themselves.

[Asera]

Wait a month until the i5-2500k is reliably availible.AFAIK, although WoW doesn't get any significant increase compared to other games, WoW does get a slight benefit if you don't run windowed.
I read that about both CF and SLi having a slight support from a review some weeks ago, who referenced comments from ATI and nVidia themselves.

We're talking a GTX580, which alone can run WoW far far far past the vsync cap solo.