Shadowpriest lose 99% mana for no reason, bug?

[Deleted]

My friend is playing a shadow priest and he's not the best player in the world if I put it like that. Sometimes when we play he starts screaming about losing all of his mana for no reason. He tells me that it can be at 70% or so and then suddently it drops down to 1%.

I'm well aware of him not being the best so I assume it's something that he's doing wrong, but it's hard for me to know since I'm not a priest.

Does anyone recognize this? Is he doing something completely wrong? How do you shadowpriests keep your mana up during a whole bossfight?

[McFrotton]

When he switch spec???

[Deleted]

Tell him to stop changing specs

[Elanale]

I haven't played an SPreist in ages, but doesn't Dispersion still return a huge chunk of mana? And you can proc Replenishment by Mind Blasting something with Vampiric Touch on them, of course. But maybe a modern specialist can shed still more light on the mana issue, as I said, my knowledge is really rather dated.

[Deleted]

When he switch spec???

He's never played anything other then shadowspecc on his priest.

[Loxley]

Maybe he should stop casting mana burn on himself

[-Ethos-]

If its during a fight it shouldnt be an issue if hes talented into dispersion, shadowfiend and the pretty wings talent (whos name evades me) in disc tree.

But yeah, sounds like hes changing spec tbh >.>

[ralphie]

Tell him to stop healing.

[Soisoisoi]

SPriests use a lot of Mana, just weave in Shadow Word: Death as it gives you 10% mana back. This along with Dispersion, Hymn of Hope, Shadow Fiend and Evangelism/Archangel.. I somehow find it strange that they can go oom, even if they use a lot, they have a lot more ways to get it back.

One thing it may be.. Is he using Shadowed Unit Frames or any other such Player-frame addon? Mine is acting up atm(not updated recently) and the Mana bar can stay at like 100% but I could be oom, or it could say I have 20% mana and be full.

[Tabox]

What is his rotation like? And when is he popping his mana CDs (Wings + Dispersion)? Also, is he using SWeath on each CD?

If he's undergeared, mana is sort of an issue since spriests kinda eat up a lot of mana with each DoT they apply.
Best method for heroic 5 trash would be to do this:

Mind Flay to 5 stacks.
Apply DoTs on one or two targets.
Pop Evangelism to get the ~25% mana spent back.
Go back to normal rotation and refreshing buffs/DoTs as needed.
SWeath if mana is an issue since dmg taken from this spell = 10% maximum mana.

Also, make sure he's popping Dispersion after each trash pack if the CD is up. It's relatively short so some wasted Mana regeneration is not that big of an issue.

[Vook]

To all the people suggesting mana-saving strategies, read the post:

He tells me that it can be at 70% or so and then suddently it drops down to 1%.

IE, dropping to 1% mana. The only thing I know of that would do that is switching specs.

Doesn't help either that the OP didn't tell us what level he is.

[-Ethos-]

To all the people suggesting mana-saving strategies, read the post:



IE, dropping to 1% mana. The only thing I know of that would do that is switching specs.

He also said

How do you shadowpriests keep your mana up during a whole bossfight?

Fairly certain you cant change specs in combat either.

[Vook]

He also said

Fairly certain you cant change specs in combat either.

Didn't say his friend was going to 1% mana in combat, another important detail he forgot.

[Deleted]

as an SP myself, switching specs is the only thing i can see causing this

there's enough abilities to get mana back if you're running out

[Vraizan]

I know I've been in groups with spriests and they'll have about 70-80k mana or w/e (I don't pay much attention) then the entire mana pool will drop to about 15k but I assumed this was just a bug with my raid frames. I dunno if that's what you mean but losing mana for no reason???

[Narg]

Right now shadow priests have loads of ways of regenerating mana, it is true that mana is spent quite quickly, but there still shouldn't be any mana issues if you know what you are doing.

Lets look at some of the mana generating spells:

Dispersion, restores 6% total mana every second for 6 seconds, = 36 % mana, during which time you are silenced and pacified, so with some natural mana regen this can be increased quite a bit.

Archangel, restores 5% mana(i think) per stack of evangelism, which stacks up to 5 times, it also works as the major dps cooldown for Spriests which increases the damage of your non periodic spells and mindflay ( Mind blast, shadow word: death, mind flay and also mind spike). 90 secs Cooldown.

Replenishment, procs when mind blast are cast on a target affected by vampiric embrace, haven't got any exact numbers for this one, but i do believe it should be possible with 100% uptime on it.

Shadow fiend, restores chunks of mana, while it does quite good dps on it's own.

Hymn of hope, restores a fair amount of mana, to every party member, should wait with this for when(if) the healer is having mana issues.

And finally, shadow word: death, this is advised by many guides not to be used anymore, but it restores 10% of total mana when the damage is returned to you, i.e. the target is not killed by it, 10% on such a short cd is very good(needs to be talented) and if the Spriest is having mana issues this should be cast whenever the cd is off( and vampiric touch and devouring plague up and running ofc).

As seen from this a Shadow priest should have no problem with mana atm. One thing that you should be careful with using, unless everything else is on cd and you are absolutely oom, dispersion, its a huge dps loss, and also it's one of the few panic buttons for when you are taking massive damage, not meaning from aggro, just fade then, but for any sort of aoe, so it is good to keep off cd for times like that.

And one big no no, never spam mind spike, it drains your mana directly. It is a spell to be used for pvp or trash with little hp.



There, hope this will help some, also i'm sorry for the lack of capital letters for names and such, also the lack of exact data, but that you could look up on your own, was in kinda hurry when i was writing this.

Good day.

[saberon]

I know I've been in groups with spriests and they'll have about 70-80k mana or w/e (I don't pay much attention) then the entire mana pool will drop to about 15k but I assumed this was just a bug with my raid frames. I dunno if that's what you mean but losing mana for no reason???

Maybe they were spamming flash heal. That drops my mana pretty damn fast.

But seriously, he should never go oom.
For mana regen, SPriests have:
Dark Archangel.
Dispersion.
Shadow Fiend.
SW.
And, probably one of the biggest ones (and ties in with SW) is Masochism.

[Ludovician]

I know I've been in groups with spriests and they'll have about 70-80k mana or w/e (I don't pay much attention) then the entire mana pool will drop to about 15k but I assumed this was just a bug with my raid frames. I dunno if that's what you mean but losing mana for no reason???

It appears to be a raid frames bug. May be caused by having 6 digit mana pools? not sure exactly but I've seen it happen plenty of times and the mana is still there just that people cant see how high they actually are.

[Deleted]

If you are going oom in fights as a shadow priest, try adding some SW: D to your rotation, since it gives you 10% of your mana back. In example, if you need to move in a fight, cast Shadow word: Death. Using Archangel in a fight off every CD won't let you go OOM that fast. And on top of those, shadow priests got also Shadowfiends, which are a nice dps boost also and dispersion, though that will obviously reduce DPS.

[zenkai]

Maybe he's playing like an old Arcange mage, 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 lol