Bad PuG Healing experience

[steveyboy]

Just left a Heroic city of the tolvir group because some warrior was trying tell me how to heal.

First he told me STOP USING BINDING HEAL PRIEST FFS L2P. Regardless of me having the poison and healing the tank at the same time.

He then goes on to sell me on the third boss to move the lightwell to where he is standing............. And told me l2p cus i said it was on CD.

They chain pull without ccing trash too and they complain i use 2xflash heal and then greater heal keep the tank up............

Suppose you can't win in pugs can you

[Danner]

Don't run pugs as a healer. Seriously. It's not worth the stress and pain you are subjected to.

Heroic guild groups and raids are great fun. Stick to those, or pug as shadow. Even if you have to spend 50 minutes in the queue, at least it's not crushing your soul having to wait.

[nalle]

Just left a Heroic city of the tolvir group because some warrior was trying tell me how to heal.

First he told me STOP USING BINDING HEAL PRIEST FFS L2P. Regardless of me having the poison and healing the tank at the same time.

He then goes on to sell me on the third boss to move the lightwell to where he is standing............. And told me l2p cus i said it was on CD.

They chain pull without ccing trash too and they complain i use 2xflash heal and then greater heal keep the tank up............

Suppose you can't win in pugs can you

No, no you can not.

In the end, pugs and baddies always win in this case (if you're in a good guild, you always win tho).

[zsun]

I suppose not

Ditching the group is indeed he best thing to do in this situation.

[steveyboy]

It was a group with 3 people from the same guild on my realm and a random mage from my realm from trade.

Originally going for achievements but he complained about everything I did. He stood in fire and died and shouted at me for not healing him when there was a lightwell up :S

[PlatedPriest]

Don't run pugs as a healer. Seriously. It's not worth the stress and pain you are subjected to.

Heroic guild groups and raids are great fun. Stick to those, or pug as shadow. Even if you have to spend 50 minutes in the queue, at least it's not crushing your soul having to wait.

honestly if i knew this maybe a month ago who know how much anguish i would have saved myself

[Christan]

Don't run pugs as a healer. Seriously. It's not worth the stress and pain you are subjected to.

Heroic guild groups and raids are great fun. Stick to those, or pug as shadow. Even if you have to spend 50 minutes in the queue, at least it's not crushing your soul having to wait.

this, though my alts gear isn't great yet, priests are having a lot of trouble at low gear levels, combined with people who have the WotLK mentality... i haven't even done a heroic on my priest as shadow, need more gear.

[Brusalk]

I guess I had a strange experience in that I like healing pugs. I think I've only had about 2 in the last 15 or so that I've done that I had any real complaints about. In fact, I've met some pretty great players (both performance and personality wise) through the LFG tool.

[z0phi3l]

I will only criticize if the Heals/Tank/DPS are just blatantly bad, otherwise, as long as the boss drops I'm happy, oh and Priests, I love the lightwells, use em with me in your group

[Deleted]

Dunno about the pugs, people always seem to have so many problems with them while I only once had to ditch the group because of failure levels since Cata launched... Someone is trying to be smarter at your class than you? /ignore and you don't have to bear with the retard. If the group is progressing without wipes you are obviously doing it right and he has no right to complain at you. I only heal when I decide to pug daily random instead of going with guildies for some reason, usually because I CBA to do anything and healing allows half-afking and reading a book during the run. :P

[Kelesti]

I guess I had a strange experience in that I like healing pugs. I think I've only had about 2 in the last 15 or so that I've done that I had any real complaints about. In fact, I've met some pretty great players (both performance and personality wise) through the LFG tool.

Pretty much this.

I love PuGs, and infact I prefer it as a night away from the alts of my guild (who are bloody terrible, I swear).

[Ynna]

I'm glad some of you had good experiences with PuGs, but they've been very rare for me.

[Deleted]

Don't run pugs as a healer. Seriously. It's not worth the stress and pain you are subjected to.

Heroic guild groups and raids are great fun. Stick to those, or pug as shadow. Even if you have to spend 50 minutes in the queue, at least it's not crushing your soul having to wait.

I've had more shit healers than shit dps so far. And I think Stevey here is one of those shit healers. Good ones don't complain on forums because they keep groups up even with shit tank etc.

[Ailoze]

As far as I've noticed, about 80% of the pugs I join as a healer, I join mid-dungeon, after a different healer left. You can figure things out yourself from here.
I usually manage to heal things to the end though.

[talitu]

thing is you dont recall the heroics that went fine, its easy for me to list a string of bad runs like the 3 man guild team that was chain wiping ont eh first boss in GB , the healer left as i joined warning me to run for me live and after 5 wipes i whispered teh 3rd replacement healer the same as advice as he walked in as i left

but on the other hand i have 3 toons running daily dungeons and they go through the pug LFD tool just about every time and the bad groups must be the exceptions or i wouldnt make such a high percentage of them with the first group.

[Kelesti]

I've had more shit healers than shit dps so far. And I think Stevey here is one of those shit healers. Good ones don't complain on forums because they keep groups up even with shit tank etc.

I named my Lightwell "Steve". This just makes me sad that.

[Deleted]

Like others in this thread, I also don't mind healing random heroics. I find that they can often be more fun as you have to be on your toes more (not literally speaking - i don't play standing up :P)

In fact, i had 1 random hc group where we were doing HoO. 2 dps were from 1 guild, other dps and tank were also from the same guild and then ofc me. It was the smoothest run I've ever done to date.

[Danner]

I've had more shit healers than shit dps so far. And I think Stevey here is one of those shit healers. Good ones don't complain on forums because they keep groups up even with shit tank etc.

This kind of feedback really don't help. The reason I stopped pugging was pretty much because of the abuse. Healers generally like to help people, and are generally overbearing. Cataclysm has put a huge amount of stress on healers, as we have to handle everything a DPS handles, plus the insanely hardcore mana minigame, plus cover everyones mistakes. And when things don't work out, usually because of wrong tactics, low DPS or no CC, we get the blame.

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My last pug ever was in heroic deadmines.

Our first tank just vanished 10 seconds after the group had been formed, stating "Fail group, priest healer". I don't quite know what he was on, because that was way after holy concentration had been buffed, and I was in pretty great gear. But whatever, I just found that funny at that point.

Our second tank left without a word after the first pull, as it lasted 6 minutes. The DPS was horrible, top DPSer pulling around half the DPS of the tank. I was about to agree with the tank, but - it's though to just abandon people. Luckily, one of the dpsers left as well, and we got in a good warlock who did more DPS than the rest of the group combined. So DPS turned bearable as a result.

The third tank was insanely impatient, chainpulling everything. I blew no less than 8 manapots and all cooldowns on the remaining trash leading up to the first boss, screaming and yelling for a manabreak along the way. Along the way I lost the group rogue due to not being able to afford a flash heal. It was really his own fault from eating all those cleaves, but that didn't stop him fro giving me a massive tirade about how much I sucked. Let's just say that I was steaming at that point, and gave the tank a tirade about healers needing mana to heal, especially when there is no CC. His response was that I needed to STFU and heal more, he couldn't be arsed to look at my manabar.

First boss was jinxy. The rogue kept on eating damage and eventually died. Again. He was less than pleased. But we downed him, mostly due to the wonderful dps from the warlock.

The tank was really impatient at that point since it by his standards was obviously going slow, so he set up the pace. After chainpulling the third pull when I was at zero mana and no cooldowns, I simply let him die, a move which kida killed the rest of the group as a consequence. I apologized to the rest of the group and let the tank know why. He just left. Rogue was immediately on my back berating me about "costing us another tank". I told him to try to outdps the next tank, I was pretty upset by then.

Fourth tank came, and ... didn't really know how to play at all. I have never had troubles with healing aggro until that point. After tanking more adds than the tank while desperately spamming binding heal, I died. Cursing silently, I released and ran. The group somehow managed to down the pull. And then they went on pulling the next one. Without me. With natural consequences. A complete wipe. Warlock left.

I have never been told meaner words than on that day. And it marked the end of the group and my pugging career. It wasn't the first bad run I had seen, I believe it was the sixth in a row.

I love my guild group runs. Those heroics are both fun and rewarding. But I'm just not enough of a sado-masochist to do Pugs anymore. Guess I will leave that department to Kelesti. In the meantime, there will be less and less healers in the queue. And frankly, I do not care.

Tanks are pretty much in the same situation. Bad groups really kill tanks' morale, and that's why there is a tank shortage going on. The major difference is that tanks aren't supposed to outheal everyone's mistakes.

[steveyboy]

I've had more shit healers than shit dps so far. And I think Stevey here is one of those shit healers. Good ones don't complain on forums because they keep groups up even with shit tank etc.

So im meant to heal retards standing in fire now and that makes me shit healer?

Yeah kk then bro sorry im not as pro as you and can keep everybody at full health whilst they stand in all the aoes.

You must be one of those bad dps who claims the healer is shit when you die in fire.

[Maxpowr]

Sometimes I cannot wait till those 15 minutes are up and I can desert a group w/o getting the debuff. I at least will get a queue again in about 3-7mins.

TBH I have seen far more crap DPS than tanks and that is proportionately correct. If you can't out DPS the tank (unless there is a severe gear disparity), I deserve the right to call you a baddie.