Apparently the programmers in this game know how to cut and paste

[Sindy]

It's a new game coming out soon and i saw this video and i was like whoa whoa, did i just see cheap shot, sprint, blind and blink in the first few moments of this video? Oh hey look, combo points too! lol. Weird.

Also i put it in the WoW section because it's so much like it, it might as well BE it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnSk6...ayer_embedded#!

[Deleted]

If you want to make something good, don't make it too original. CnP good ideas from other places and you'll get perfect results. Heck, that's how WoW itself was made!
Also, what else would you expect a rogue/assassin to have? Fireball? It's a generic set of abilities for a stealthy class.

PS: it's designers, not programmers. Programmers only code what they are told to. What abilities a class has is determined by designers.

[Deleted]

Well WoW isn't exactly the king of originality. A great part of it was copied from other games.

[Sindy]

If you want to make something good, don't make it too original. CnP good ideas from other places and you'll get perfect results. Heck, that's how WoW itself was made!
Also, what else would you expect a rogue/assassin to have? Fireball? It's a generic set of abilities for a stealthy class.

PS: it's designers, not programmers. Programmers only code what they are told to. What abilities a class has is determined by designers.

Right. The developers tell them to copy and paste, and the programmers actually perform the copy and paste. Which is why i said what i said...

[Rystastic]

Well WoW isn't exactly the king of originality. A great part of it was copied from other games.

This.

Also, its not exactly wise to judge a game because its ui looks like another game. Its not like WoW invented these rogue moves, hell, most of the RPGs I've played have rogues with similar abilities.


Also, that is only 1 out of 8 rogue specs. The others don't work the same way.

[Sindy]

Well WoW isn't exactly the king of originality. A great part of it was copied from other games.

Like?

...and don't say They stole Paladins name, and Orcs, all taken from D&D or something stupid like that. I realize everyone takes a little of something from the older MMO's but nothing like what this game does.

[Deleted]

To be perfectly pedantic, I doubt it uses similar code - fighting system is too different, as I know. Only similar ideas.

[Sindy]

This.

Also, its not exactly wise to judge a game because its ui looks like another game. Its not like WoW invented these rogue moves, hell, most of the RPGs I've played have rogues with similar abilities.


Also, that is only 1 out of 8 rogue specs. The others don't work the same way.

Really? The only similarity between wow and EQ1 rogues is backstab and stealth, which, is what rogues do traditionally in all games. Not exactly ripped off.

[BlartyBlart]

Good artists borrow, great artists steal

[Sindy]

To be perfectly pedantic, I doubt it uses similar code - fighting system is too different, as I know. Only similar ideas.

It wasn't meant to be taken literally Poindexter.

[Merin]

While MMO's are all usually cut from a sameish cloth this really does look like they're trying to 1:1 clone WoW, yikes.

[Vook]

What fantasy MMO isn't trying to ripoff WoW, nowadays?

[Xenryusho]

How DARE YOU. Try and say a similar interface mechanical design relates to a copy paste on the code.
I suggest you try to properly code even the simplest game in a legitimate language. No not a "lol 30 minute game designer".

Learn a single thing about computers, a single thing about programming, even read a book on proper code structure, paradigms. I doubt someone with your intelligence level could ever understand the simplest UML or fathom how much work or design it takes to do this. "LOLOLOLOLOLOL THIS IS ST00PID THER IS A STICK PERSON" "WHY DO I NEED MORE DEN ONE CLASS?" "WHAT DOES INHERITANCE AND COMPOSITION MEAN?

To say this was copy pasted is an insult to the programmers.
No things are copied in development and design.
NOT IN PROGRAMMING.

[Sindy]

What fantasy MMO isn't trying to ripoff WoW, nowadays?

Vanguard didn't.

[Fenixhart]

"We aren't in Azeroth anymore"

OH RLY?

[Sindy]

How DARE YOU. Try and say a similar interface mechanical design relates to a copy paste on the code.
I suggest you try to properly code even the simplest game in a legitimate language. No not a "lol 30 minute game designer".

Learn a single thing about computers, a single thing about programming, even read a book on proper code structure, paradigms. I doubt someone with your intelligence level could ever understand the simplest UML or fathom how much work or design it takes to do this. "LOLOLOLOLOLOL THIS IS ST00PID THER IS A STICK PERSON" "WHY DO I NEED MORE DEN ONE CLASS?" "WHAT DOES INHERITANCE AND COMPOSITION MEAN?

To say this was copy pasted is an insult to the programmers.
No things are copied in development and design.
NOT IN PROGRAMMING.

Wow, i'm not trying to troll really i just thought it was funny but you're making me look like it with this "you mad bro?" bait.

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"We aren't in Azeroth anymore"

OH RLY?

LOLOLOL!

Their world is called Htoreza.

[erebusman]

Like?

...and don't say They stole Paladins name, and Orcs, all taken from D&D or something stupid like that. I realize everyone takes a little of something from the older MMO's but nothing like what this game does.

Like EverQuest. You are aware one of the lead designer's (Alex Afrasiabi) was a very avid EverQuest player and used to argue/debate with the EverQuest design team until he went to work with Blizzard and create World of Warcraft.

I played Everquest for 6 years and I can say that there are many similarities... things that while similar are what I would call "improvements" same thing just 1-2 notches better.

[Xenryusho]

Wow, i'm not trying to troll really i just thought it was funny but you're making me look like it with this "you mad bro?" bait.

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LOLOLOL!

Their world is called Htoreza.

Sorry, I overreacted. This game is pretty much a huge rip off of wow from what I could see from this video. The mechanics with combo points is embarrassing, When there are so many new and interesting ideas getting put in sub par mmo's that will never get the chance to even compete with WoW it's kinda sad to see something like this get so much attention when things are so clearly a rip off of WoW mechanics.

[Sindy]

Like EverQuest. You are aware one of the lead designer's (Alex Afrasiabi) was a very avid EverQuest player and used to argue/debate with the EverQuest design team until he went to work with Blizzard and create World of Warcraft.

I played Everquest for 6 years and I can say that there are man similarities... and many things that while similar are what I would call "improvements" same thing just 1-2 notches better.

I played EQ1 as a rogue for about 5 or 6 years in a guild called Triton on Povar. Top 10 guild in the game. I know how rogues were in EQ, and i honestly can't think of 1 thing they may have taken from EQ. Neither can you because you didn't mention anything specific.

[Agallochh]

I'm canceling my WoW account when Rift comes out.