What makes him miss...?

[JD3K]

(PVP) What makes ur target miss/resists a "fear" even if u got the needed 5%hit, the needed SPen and he gots no Fear Ward, Shadow Cloak or even Will of the Forsaken???
ty for ur attention...

[Swaap]

Shadow Resistance.

Mages with mage armor have higher resistance.
Mark of the wild gives resistance.
etc. etc.

[Deleted]

Shadow Resistance.

Mages with mage armor have higher resistance.
Mark of the wild gives resistance.
etc. etc.

That makes it resist, not miss.

[Swaap]

That makes it resist, not miss.

good point.

[Taros]

Certain races and classes (like Blood Elves and Paladins) have traits/talents that decreases their chances to be hit. This will result in misses against that particular class or race sometimes.

[Deleted]

Racials?;o

[Taros]

Throw away everything I said about racials relating to % to be missed. Those racials were all changed since Cataclysm to become resistances (1% per level).

[JD3K]

Blood Elf racial passive:

Shadow Resistance : Reduces the chance you will be hit by Shadow spells by 2%.

---------- Post added 2011-01-29 at 07:02 AM ----------

Sorry that was Undead. Blood elf is just Magic Resistance. (All schools)

the right answer ty
If u increase hit will that neutralize that racials?

[Naro]

Blood elves' racial gives additional (85?) resistance to arcane, or so.

And yes, it will neutralize that extra miss chance, most likely.

[Taros]

Actually no I believe it's been confirmed that no amount of "extra" hit rating will make a difference and those percentages are fixed.

[Deleted]

That makes it resist, not miss.

Didn't they chance spells to show as "misses" when they were resisted? Maybe it's just certain spells, or maybe I'm just out there

[geewhiz80]

(PVP) What makes ur target miss/resists a "fear" even if u got the needed 5%hit, the needed SPen and he gots no Fear Ward or even Will of the Forsaken???
ty for ur attention...

According to everything I've read about hit, even if you're capped there is always a 1% chance to miss.

[Sylf]

they changed how spells work for quite some time ago.

If a targets resist a full spell it will say that you missed.
you will only get "reisist" if the target resists a portion of your spell

[Taros]

Didn't they chance spells to show as "misses" when they were resisted? Maybe it's just certain spells, or maybe I'm just out there

Only thing I can think of them doing this with is rogue cloak of shadows. The reason being so that people's spell pen wouldn't go through cloak and lots of rogues would QQ.

[Thallidomaniac]

According to everything I've read about hit, even if you're capped there is always a 1% chance to miss.

The unavoidable 1% chance to miss for spells was removed in Wrath.

[JD3K]

The unavoidable 1% chance to miss for spells was removed in Wrath.

we can avoid miss with the hit, and avoid the mitigation with the spell pen, but...
How can we pass through the racial resistances? with hit or spell pen?

[fizikz]

the right answer ty
If u increase hit will that neutralize that racials?

Yes - the spell hit cap for pvp is normally 4% - it is 6% if you wan't to "cover" the 2% -hit racials as well. (the 5% number comes from melee hit cap)

edit: i guess these were changed in cata (to 1 resistence per level ex. 85 shadow resist at level 85)... my bad

probably just need more spell pen to deal with it then.

[Swizzle]

You have a low QB pass rating making you miss? I dunno, I'm tired.