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    The theory of giving Tricks

    Why do 19 of 20 rogues think its a good idea to give tricks to another rogue, just because he gives it to them,
    if neither of them are located within the top5 DPS _WITH_ tricks?!

    I mean if a warrior, lock, shadowpriest of mage is amazingly good in a certain aspect of the boss, how can
    the tiny tiny brain of a rogue calculate it to give the tricks to the auto attacking rogue pal?

    Please oh please fill me in why.

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    It's essentially the same thing as arcane mages giving each other Focus Magic, despite there being other more suitable targets...

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    cus im guessing ur a warrior, lock, shadowpriest or mage! plus he wants the other rogue to tricks him aswell! they could care less what ur dps is!

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    The only person I toss TotT to is the tank. That's it. And, I also toss it to them whenever it's up. It's supposed to alleviate some of the threat we build up over time, and the extra 10% damage for 6 seconds comes out to about a 50 dps increase if tossed to another rogue or hunter or any other dps class.
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    I'm sure insulting 19 of 20 rogues will get you the answer.

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    its just a courtesy, like mages used to swap FM.
    i would also assume, that it was because tricks used to give permanent threat, giving that to a mage would make him overaggro, where as swapping it would keep both rogues at "normal threat". most rogues forget it is now temporary, so it doesnt matter.

    if it is really an issue to you, talk to them

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    Was this thread REALLY necessary? Please ask yourself that. This is just a complaint thread.
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    Because of the threat.
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    Same reason mages do a focus magic circle jerk....
    Both rogues look better on the meters if they tricks each other.
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    I think it's the "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" - Why should I give a fellow player, on the top dps spots, a dps increase, without receiving anything in return, when me and another rogue can both get higher up by tricking each other? (of course, this is all assuming you have enough dps to down the encounter - if you don't then tricking your highest dps should help more)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafir View Post
    neither of them are located within the top5 DPS _WITH_ tricks?!
    Sorry, I am unfamiliar with this situation.

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    why do mages exchange FM? Why do warlocks exchange DI?

    Quote Originally Posted by rkoehorst View Post
    Because of the threat.
    Threat from Tott is no longer permanent so it doesn't matter anymore.
    Last edited by Mroz123; 2011-01-30 at 06:09 PM.

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    We toss it to the other rogue because get this, the other rogue theoretically throws it back to us. Therefore we are getting a dps boost also. Otherwise it goes to the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mroz123 View Post
    why do mages exchange FM? Why do warlocks exchange DI?
    Wait, more than one warlock in the same group?! Blasphemy!

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    just for info tricks has 20 yards range.

    as warlock I'll call "retard" any ranged class who stays so close to boss (with some very rare exclusions)
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    alright 15% increased damage for 6 seconds...that's going to be so amazing for a lock/mage/boomkin who will probably only utilize it for at most 3 spells (if they're lucky), where the melee class, like a fast swinging rogue, is probably getting off more hits within that time frame. and as pointed out earlier that gives like a 50dps increase, who cares who it goes to. sounds like a bunk ability imo especially if the rogue glyphs it.
    This pretty much sums up how i feel about this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasser View Post
    I think it's the "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" - Why should I give a fellow player, on the top dps spots, a dps increase, without receiving anything in return, when me and another rogue can both get higher up by tricking each other? (of course, this is all assuming you have enough dps to down the encounter - if you don't then tricking your highest dps should help more)
    Perhaps because the boss then will be downed earlier and thus is easier for anyone in the raid and even safer to play? Why would you gimp your raid-dps just to get back something you don't need? It's all about the raid as a whole and not just you or your rogue friend looking better in the dps-meter. Why should a prot paladin use the 20% raid-damage-decrease? Can you see this anywhere in recount? It's a GCD not used to make damage or to generate threat, but it's still very intelligent to use it, because it helps the raid to down the boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambrodel View Post
    It's essentially the same thing as arcane mages giving each other Focus Magic, despite there being other more suitable targets...
    How can you possibly think its even remotely the same thing giving someone a few percent of crit vs giving
    someone a flat 15% damage increase?

    Quote Originally Posted by trulofy View Post
    cus im guessing ur a warrior, lock, shadowpriest or mage! plus he wants the other rogue to tricks him aswell! they could care less what ur dps is!
    If your trying to kill a boss together, why would you make the encounter harder??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mroz123 View Post
    why do mages exchange FM? Why do warlocks exchange DI?
    that's pretty asinine for locks to exchange DI...if another lock gives me DI i swear i'd love to reach through his computer and slap him.
    This pretty much sums up how i feel about this thread

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    Swapping trix is just like putting it on the tank, so why not boost eachother's damage?

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