Cataclysm = Old Content Recycled

[audioslave90]

So far everything is recycled content,
Nefarion 4.0.1 + Deadmines + Shadowfang Keep
Ragnaros 4.1 + Zulaman + Zul'gurub

I must say the new deadmines is fun but couldnt they come up with something new? Whats your opinion on Old Content being Reborn?

[DismalNether]

It's not really recycling when the only copied things are models and names =/

Edit: And even then, Nef and Rag both have new models, Onyxia has a new model as well.

[Yosef1015]

None of that is recycled content. They are all much different than they were in previous forms. Naxxramas is recycled content. Nefarian deadmines sfk ragnaros ZA and ZG, are not.

[Zf]

Everything? What about the vast majority of heroics, all the raids except for one boss and even that boss was completely different just the same name.

[Kujja]

It's not really recycling when the only copied things are models and names =/

This. The fights are completely different - not like when they upped Onyxia to lvl 80 with exactly the same mechanics (although that wasn't supposed to be a major raid so it doesn't really matter tbh).

[mistuhbull]

So far everything is recycled content,

We fought Cho'gall before?
and Magmaw?
and went to Bastion of Twilight?
and discovered Uldum?
and saved the world from collapsing on itself by restoring the world pillar?

[Yeran]

From what I heard only ZA will be kind of recycled. That being said I can see them adding more if they want to introduce another heroic tier with ZG/ZA as doing the random daily from a pool of 2 seems strange. I hope however they will find a balance of not releasing too much recycled stuff. WotLK with naxxramas was overkill for sure, as it was a whole tier of barely anything but recycled stuff. I'd guess they learnd from that tho.

[Astrofax]

I see these threads and I wonder if its trolling, or just people trying to increase their post count...

They told us a looooong time ago that VC (DM for the newer people) and SFK were making a come back. And... well, read the rest of the replies, no need for me to say it all again.

[Shampun]

It's inevitable that content will be recycled. Do you really want a 20 gig + game with most of the things in there you don't even touch anymore? And two, this is Cataclysm, where the theme is that the WoW timeline has move forward and it's only natural things in the past are brought up back to date with updated and brand new lore.

[Idoru]

Deepholme, Stonecore, recycled?
Uldum, Halls of Origination, Vortex Pinacle, Lost City, Al'Akir, recycled?
Twilight Highlands, Grim Batol, Bastion of Twilight, Cho'Gal, Sinestra, recycled?
Vashj'ir, Throne of the Tides, recycled?
Hyjal, recycled?

Another recycled thread about recycled content. That's my opinion.

[Wsc51595]

And did we ever roll over thousands and thousands of gnomes with a flaming ball of
Death. I think not

Off topic bit wouldn't it be nice if they was like a world counter for how many gnomes slaughtered through that quest

[Buffalostyle]

It's not really recycling when the only copied things are models and names =/

This pretty much sums it up.

[Deleted]

So far everything is recycled content,
Nefarion 4.0.1 + Deadmines + Shadowfang Keep
Ragnaros 4.1 + Zulaman + Zul'gurub

I must say the new deadmines is fun but couldnt they come up with something new? Whats your opinion on Old Content being Reborn?

It's not old content... jesus christ. Naxxramas was old content, the same shit dumbed down for everyone. The current "recycled" content is completelly new, just has the same names.

OH WAIT NAMES ARE FUCKING IMPORTANT! THEY MAKE EVERYTHING BE THE SAME!!!!

[advent89]

I liked the new pve content and the differences, but as a pvp player this expansion is about as boring as they come. Honestly, its a game breaker for me. Story line for me Arthas was awesome but I honestly feel no investment to go kill Deathwing. PvP was boring in WOTLK but seriously another rehash of the same PvP ideas in two expansions is even worse. I'm two months in and already feel bored, I'm well aware that PvE content is pretty sweet but honestly the investment and dealing with more than my core group of friends really isn't intriguing anymore. I was hoping for new PvP.... anything and pretty much got nothing.

[microtonal]

That being said I can see them adding more if they want to introduce another heroic tier with ZG/ZA as doing the random daily from a pool of 2 seems strange.

It seems strange mostly because it's obviously not going to happen that way. Nine plus two does not equal two.

---------- Post added 2011-02-28 at 11:56 PM ----------

I liked the new pve content and the differences, but as a pvp player this expansion is about as boring as they come. Honestly, its a game breaker for me. Story line for me Arthas was awesome but I honestly feel no investment to go kill Deathwing. PvP was boring in WOTLK but seriously another rehash of the same PvP ideas in two expansions is even worse. I'm two months in and already feel bored, I'm well aware that PvE content is pretty sweet but honestly the investment and dealing with more than my core group of friends really isn't intriguing anymore. I was hoping for new PvP.... anything and pretty much got nothing.

Of course PvP doesn't change with new expansions. How could it? There are only so many ways you can kill other players, and only so many contexts and environments in which to do it.

[MonsieuRoberts]

It's old content REBORN.

You're not doing Naxx again with bigger health pools. You're not looting the same items with different stats. *cough Ashkandi cough*

This is not recycling. This is new content based on old content. Recycling is Vanilla Naxx Vs. WLK Naxx.

[Fazdran]

Wonder how many people will fall for the OP.

[MonsieuRoberts]

Wonder how many people will fall for the OP.

Trolls don't make it past 10 posts.

[Dakho]

Updated would be the operative term. The new dungeons are nothing like they used to be. Nefarian is nothing like he used to be.

Personally, what they're doing with ZA and ZG is pretty brilliant, and it's good for the players. Here's why.

Both of these dungeons are old content. Old content that A. Was well received and B. Not everyone did. So they have two assets not in use. Now, they get to refurbish those new dungeons with new content. It's still pretty fresh to us, and they didn't have to use a lot of development time making two entirely new dungeons. Because trust me, if they did do that, we would be waiting another month, if not longer.

Cataclysm is the expansion of renewal, as odd as that sounds. Blizzard is using the assets they have and refurbishing them for current player use. It's a smart use of resources and it's going to pay off in terms of the amount of content we are going to have.

[Astrofax]

You're not looting the same items with different stats. *cough Ashkandi cough*

I hate to be nitpicky, but aren't the drops in VC(/DM) the same items with more stats/ilevels?