Consecration - PvP Usage Idea

[vizzle]

We hardly see Consecration anymore, other than the occasional AoE tank pull, but that's it. It has no place in PvP at all, and Pallies don't have any sort of slow (no, Justice does not count). Why not make Consecration similar to Desecration, where it puts a bit of a slow on opponents who step in it? Anyone agree with this?

[Baracuda]

Or make it little more, but still not, original.
Make it like flame wreath from Kara, but slows/roots you instead of damaging you when you move.
Could be a talent or something but I think it's fair considering it's high mana cost(except for prot).

Edit: Just to clarify it wouldn't affect you if don't enter it or stand still if it's cast on you.

[Deleted]

Or make it little more, but still not, original.
Make it like flame wreath from Kara, but slows/roots you instead of damaging you when you move.
Could be a talent or something but I think it's fair considering it's high mana cost(except for prot).

Edit: Just to clarify it wouldn't affect you if don't enter it or stand still if it's cast on you.

This is a pretty good idea. Due to the fact it's creating holy ground it could also be used as the class' visible aoe heal, at the moment the best paladin AoE heal is only visible via the little heal ticks which aren't exactly obvious if you're being healed by other people.

[Andron]

Why not make it split it's damage between all targets? I heard that's a common way to treat Paladin-AoE.
Seriously? Anything is better than the current lamesecraction. The idea of a heal was already out there and so was the silence, but nothing ever made it, not even to the PTR.

[Vuagnon]

It should have the holy version of Desecration's slowing effect imo.

[Munchkins]

The last thing we need is TWO classes with desecration. Imagine Ret/DK/X.... The whole arena would be filled with desecration

[t3hj0j0]

I would love a "Flame Wreath" Style of effect, but not just a I cast consecration and it happens thing. I would prefer a talent that gave HS when used to damage, SotR, or TV a 33% chance per charge of HP consumed to allow the casting of a targeted consecration, slowing them and making them take damage the more they move. Make the buggers think twice about running toward that pillar in fear.

[Cope]

Or make it little more, but still not, original.
Make it like flame wreath from Kara, but slows/roots you instead of damaging you when you move.
Could be a talent or something but I think it's fair considering it's high mana cost(except for prot).

Edit: Just to clarify it wouldn't affect you if don't enter it or stand still if it's cast on you.

I'm trying and trying to understand this... but I can't.

You don't need to slow people that have to stand still not to be slowed. They have a choice of standing still, or being slowed. Same as desecration.

Desecration doesn't slow you if you don't enter it or stand still either....

[Baracuda]

I'm trying and trying to understand this... but I can't.

You don't need to slow people that have to stand still not to be slowed. They have a choice of standing still, or being slowed. Same as desecration.

Desecration doesn't slow you if you don't enter it or stand still either....

Well I did say it could root too didn't I ?
Obviously it would have to be a talent or increased CD, even with the high mana cost.

While there are probably other betters ideas there still should be something that makes you twice before interacting with a palas consectration.

[Johnpreston]

The last thing we need is TWO classes with desecration. Imagine Ret/DK/X.... The whole arena would be filled with desecration

And yet there are now 3 classes with a battle res, and 3 (2 if you discount hunter pet buff) with heroism.

[Kiso94]

Bah, with the current condition of paladins the consecration should increase the movement speed of other players ...
And if they did that they'd just have to get rid of HoF

[Culexus]

The last thing we need is TWO classes with desecration. Imagine Ret/DK/X.... The whole arena would be filled with desecration

Thats not an argument at all. When consecration would be a viable pvp option it would be used and therefore would "fill the whole arena" like you word it. Even if it would have a totally different effect than desecration that makes it viable.

Also i think that was stated before in other discussions about that. I would like to see consecration have different effects for every tree via talents that are deep enough. Like providing a heal for friendly targets for holy and some kind of slow/root mechanic for ret, look at the last boss in stonecore whose void zones pull people into their middle when they step into it that would be great. And for prot its actually fine i think. Doesnt need a pvp use and in pve its a great tool when specced into it.

[Deleted]

When consecration would be a viable option it would be used

Fixed that for you.

[Deleted]

And yet there are now 3 classes with a battle res, and 3 (2 if you discount hunter pet buff) with heroism.

And none of those abilities you mentioned can be used in arena.

Moot point.

[Culexus]

Fixed that for you.

it is. as a aoe tanking tool and a pve aoe dmg tool. whats your point?

[Deleted]

Well I dont really think paladins need more CC or snares for protection or retribution. Although, creating a "Ring of Frost" Like ability but whichs roots your opponents would be viable.

"Holy Ground" - Fills the earth with holy power, causing the ground to root any opponents in it. Instant cast, 2 minutes cooldown.

[Moistie]

Well I dont really think paladins need more CC or snares for protection or retribution. Although, creating a "Ring of Frost" Like ability but whichs roots your opponents would be viable.

"Holy Ground" - Fills the earth with holy power, causing the ground to root any opponents in it. Instant cast, 2 minutes cooldown.

LoL I am willing to bet 70% of the WoW community hates ring of frost with a passion and you want to add another one to the game. Holy pallies and frost mages already compliment each other well enough.

[Vizardlorde]

Well I dont really think paladins need more CC or snares for protection or retribution. Although, creating a "Ring of Frost" Like ability but whichs roots your opponents would be viable.

"Holy Ground" - Fills the earth with holy power, causing the ground to root any opponents in it. Instant cast, 2 minutes cooldown.

more cc and snares ? could you please tell me where to find those because theres only 1 crappy cc thats ret only and a snare which is prot only with a glyph

[t3hj0j0]

Yah.... I was kinda confused when I read "more" cc's and snares, we have 1 class wide stun which is dispellable, 1 spec only incap, also dispellable, no snares except a prot glyph. I'm pretty sure every class has more cc/snares than we do in any given spec.

[Borigrad]

Consecration should do Four things for PvP.

1.) Be placeable anywhere you want just like DnD, like it should of been like for 7 years now.
2.) increase the casters movement speed when on Consecration by 70%, this way you can run over it get across it to catch someone that much quicker.
3.) Stun anyone for 1-2 seconds who runs out of consecrate, with a cap on how many people can be stunned.
4.) more area covered, Lower Mana cost.