Are modern gamers getting spoiled?

[Sorrior]

So this WAS going to be a thing about multiplayer in most games ossibly making them/the gaming community spoiled but then i relaized that it could be the games that are made these days in genera;. So i ask you guys are modern gamers spoiled?

Personally i think they are in some ways. I grew up playing games starting with the genesis back then we would get a game and play it probably even go back multple times. We didn;t need updates or firends or online or hell even speech. We played the game cause it was fun or just entertaining. Nigh impossible diffculties were just challenges to overcome and have fun with. If you had a friend to play with cool bonus ally but it wasn;t required like it seems to be today. Developers would also make more complete games it seems before thy could just update em with new patches or sell extra content to us. It just feels to me like alot of games that rely on the internet are less complete or are so focused on the multiplayer that the single player loses ALOT of it's quality. As for coice acting i see it as optional but alot of people seem to fixate on it whatever happened to reading the text or enjoying the gameplay? Even the graphics seem to have become required to be insanely powerful. Any older gamers could tell you how it felt to play the n64 or even ps1 and how they seemed so amazing or how the genesis had such fun gameplay.

So my query really is are modern gamers spoiled and do you think games have lost something as they've become more "normal" or "mainstream". I say yes they have games seem to have become simpler or should i say easier while focusing on multiplayer to the exclusion of the single player/

[HazardYo]

We played the game cause it was fun or just entertaining.

And games aren't fun or entertaining nowadays? Having a multiplayer doesn't necessarily mean that the game loses its fun-aspect. If you think a particular game isn't fun to you, buy something else, maybe a Mario or Zelda games - these have been around for ages and are still SO MUCH FUN

Even the graphics seem to have become required to be insanely powerful.

That is not really true. Games like Doodle Jump or Minecraft didn't have that huge of an impact because of their graphics. Even today, people still like to play what is fun - even if the 'fun' part of the game is wrapped up in awesome graphics.

So my query really is are modern gamers spoiled and do you think games have lost something as they've become more "normal" or "mainstream.

No.

[Lollis]

Spoiled for £39.99 before DLC which is now standard? Are you kidding me.

[petninja]

A lot of games that came out in the late 80s were fairly complex (end of the NES cycle) but for their complexity were also not forgiving at all. Contra would be an example. Without the famous cheat code you had 3 lives to make it to the end, and if you fucked up you started over. Ninja Gaiden was like this as well. In the end a lot of it came back to very specific memory of the layout and spawns throughout the entire game (with obvious room for improv), but still if you jumped at the wrong time or in the wrong place a fricken bat would appear out of nowhere and knock you into a pit and you have to start the area all over again.

It's hard to make accurate comparisons without putting on the rosey goggles of nostalgia, but I'm convinced that the slow death of the "Game Over' screen has somewhat spoiled the challenge and reward of gaming. Even at higher difficulty modes many adventure games will just put you back pretty much where you died and give you as many attempts as it takes to get it right. There's no conflict for the player, you just do it until it works.

[Deleted]

Spoilt how?

The needs and expectations of the gaming community have developped and specialised, true that some games take advantage of mainstream, mass procuced titles but there are a lot of games still out there that are great, that I've played over and over as much as i played FF's over and over when i was a kid.

Games these days have just developed and innervated because they have had to.

[Stockli]

Spoiled?

Who's paying for these games?

My dwindling bank balance that what.

[Soulseizeer]

Nah, not gamers exclusively, modern ppl in general are spoiled.

[Sorrior]

To those citing monetary reasons not what i meant. What i meant was has gameplay mechanics and even emphasis on stroy started to take a backseat to other aspects and have games become easier. I mean again back in the day i remeber it taking more than a week maybe even months to finish a single game if ever. The FEEL though the feel of killing those bosses those enemies was something else however. The lifespan of a game upon purchasing was more and it jus seems like gamers these days have it easier difficulty wise and that games just arenlt as enhoyable for long periods without requiring multiplayer. So i guess my real prob and question shoulda been are developers getting lazy.

---------- Post added 2011-03-08 at 11:23 AM ----------

Nah, not gamers exclusively, modern ppl in general are spoiled.

Heh sadly i do indeed see this as being quite true.

[ItachiZaku]

Nah, not gamers exclusively, modern ppl in general are spoiled.

I'd go along with this. I'm a firm believe that no one in high school and younger actually needs a cell phone, yet not only do most have one but they have iPhones and Droids at this age. A "friend" of mine was talking about how she grounded her son, for what? He had his iPad stolen at school. We aren't friends anymore because I said "Good, a 12 year old has no business with a cell phone, let alone something like an iPad" which led to a big argument and yadda yadda yadda I lost a booty call.

That's still the level of modern spoilation.

[levitate]

Modern gamers are spoiled with choices that didn't exist 20 or 30 years ago. The game industry is fairly new and is always expanding and evolving (compared to the stagnant music industry). We're spoiled but in a good way.

Computer games cost just about as much as they ever have while are much more fun and interesting. Some people argue that the bug-patch-cycle and constant dlc are bad things, introduced only to give the game business more money. That is probably true to some degree, even though I like the idea of having dlc. Gives the game a longevity that didn't exist before. The bugs are something we have to live with, they've always existed in games but now the developers actually recognise it and do something about the issue.

[Sorrior]

I'd go along with this. I'm a firm believe that no one in high school and younger actually needs a cell phone, yet not only do most have one but they have iPhones and Droids at this age. A "friend" of mine was talking about how she grounded her son, for what? He had his iPad stolen at school. We aren't friends anymore because I said "Good, a 12 year old has no business with a cell phone, let alone something like an iPad" which led to a big argument and yadda yadda yadda I lost a booty call.

That's still the level of modern spoilation.

Funny thing is most people would take a look at my life and say i;m the same. But my childhood was anything but overmedicated tossed from school to school and no doctor could help till i was 12. But when people here about all the shit i have now and how nice my life is they assume it;s always been so. But yeah i agree. I mean i see cellphones as useful tools but i mean an ipad ata school of course it;s gonna get stolen. Though i do see some point in cell phones at maybe middle school age but elementary i;m sorry but WTF. People don;t even know what suffereing is anymore now it;s all about break ups or something similar.

---------- Post added 2011-03-08 at 11:33 AM ----------

Modern gamers are spoiled with choices that didn't exist 20 or 30 years ago. The game industry is fairly new and is always expanding and evolving (compared to the stagnant music industry). We're spoiled but in a good way.

Computer games cost just about as much as they ever have while are much more fun and interesting. Some people argue that the bug-patch-cycle and constant dlc are bad things, introduced only to give the game business more money. That is probably true to some degree, even though I like the idea of having dlc. Gives the game a longevity that didn't exist before. The bugs are something we have to live with, they've always existed in games but now the developers actually recognise it and do something about the issue.

I can agree with this to a degree. HOWEVER alot of games these days it also seems it;s being used as a way to release incomplete games. Maybe that's why i like jrpgs or alot o japanese made games cause they seem more "finished" quite often if you will.

[levitate]

HOWEVER alot of games these days it also seems it;s being used as a way to release incomplete games.

I think it's always been like that. The difference now is that the big AAA games are so complex and take so long to be released that when you actually have it installed you're expecting it to be perfect. But of course, any faults that still exist are magnified hundred times compared to 20 years ago.

The whole game industry is also evolving around Internet these days, making the games news go seamlessly around the world in an instant, whereas before I had to buy PC Gamer or whatever was available to get a demo or any game news I craved.

[Sorrior]

I think it's always been like that. The difference now is that the big AAA games are so complex and take so long to be released that when you actually have it installed you're expecting it to be perfect. But of course, any faults that still exist are magnified hundred times compared to 20 years ago.

The whole game industry is also evolving around Internet these days, making the games news go seamlessly around the world in an instant, whereas before I had to buy PC Gamer or whatever was avai .able to get a demo or any game news I craved.

Not quite like it was IMO. I mean yeah we got glitches and had to wait for games. But at the same time at least when you got one and i mean even games like xenosaga which was a multipart game felt more complete than alot of games i;ve played lately. Brutal legend for instance AWESOME game but also felt somehow unfinished. Oblivion and dragon age origins both felt like the company just shut down partway through and said "hey the modders will finish this for us" to me. Or the cases of " ah hell we can just ipdate it later or sell them more story" such as fable, 2 and 3(GREAT GAMES but just seem so incomplete at points) Before the days of DLC we would get these games but more gonodhed or polished in some way. At least that's how i see it.