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    Martin's given the showrunners an outline for the general plot up to the conclusion of A Song of Ice and Fire, so worst case scenario they can continue the show without him.

    Though Martin also recently signed a two year contract with HBO to develop new programming, and has already stated that a Tales of Dunk & Egg spinoff is in discussion. He also mentioned that Robert's Rebellion would be covered by the A Song of Ice and Fire adaptation license, hinting that that may be possible as well.

    So if the show did catch up to the books (which wouldn't be until at least 2017, possibly 2019...) they could easily put the show on hiatus and do a spinoff or prequel. The biggest concern, I think, would be that the actor's could potentially age really noticeably if a hiatus is needed between the adaptations of books 6 and 7.

    On the other hand, Martin might simply not let that happen. Books 4 and 5 took especially long because he'd never had them planned in the first place. He's also already written at least half of book 6 and some of book 7. If he winds up under deadline pressure, he probably has the capacity to buckle down and finish them.

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    Can't wait for this season... So many people die!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Can't wait for this season... So many people die!! lol
    tbh that's pretty much the order of the day from now on If I'm not mistaken from now on we'll have at least two deaths a season, or course there's been about so far......

    I would love to see some of the history stuff, as filler, if they ever catch up to the books. LOVE the idea of a spinoff/season based on roberts rebellion and put in the tower of joy stuff they cut out of season 1, would be good all round.
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    I saw this and thought of this thread, dont mind me im up to date on GoT books and series.


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    I honestly don't know why people wouldn't want to pick up the books and read them if they haven't already. I'm all up to date and currently re-listening to A Storm of Swords on audio in my spare time...Roy Detrice does an amazing job on the audio books, it's a shame he doesn't narrate for Feast.

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    Episode titles:

    Ep. 301 – Valar Dohaeris
    Ep. 302 – Dark Wings, Dark Words
    Ep. 303 – Walk of Punishment
    Ep. 304 – And Now His Watch is Ended
    Ep. 305 – Kissed by Fire
    Ep. 306 – to be determined
    Ep. 307 – The Bear and the Maiden Fair
    Ep. 308 – to be determined
    Ep. 309 – The Rains of Castamere
    Ep. 310 – Mhysa


    From WiC.net
    Higgledy-piggledy Lord Wyman Manderly
    Sups with his foes, leaving Nary a crumb.

    Wolvering wolverenes Incontrovertibly
    Tell all who hearken that Winter is come.

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    wow... that's a nice list of episodes, it's fun going through and thinking what the episodes will be about

    I'm guessing:


    ep1: Arya heavy, the start of her adventures with The Hound.
    ep4: Death of Commander Mormont and the Night's Watch outparty rebellion.
    ep5: Boring episode with Jon diddling Ygritte and many repetitions of "You know nothing Jon Snow".
    Ep9: The Red Wedding! I think the title change is a good idea, anyone who knows the story knows what will happen, but it's not QUITE so obvious that the wedding is going to end horribly, if you don't already know.
    ep10: This word rings a bell, but I can't think why.. any input?


    Overall seems like this is going to be a badass season can't wwaaiitt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallahadd View Post
    ep10: This word rings a bell, but I can't think why.. any input?
    One of the people on WiC says it's ghiscari for "mother." Dany going on her dragon rampage maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallahadd View Post


    ep10: This word rings a bell, but I can't think why.. any input?


    Overall seems like this is going to be a badass season can't wwaaiitt
    It's a Valyrian word for "mother". the slaves that Daenerys freed call her that. I'm guessing it's the Yunkai episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonTargaryen View Post
    It's a Valyrian word for "mother". the slaves that Daenerys freed call her that. I'm guessing it's the Yunkai episode.
    Yunkai already? I'd think she would only get as far as Astapor and conquer that, thereby getting her army in season 3. Seems like a good place to stop, letting her having two cities to conquer in season 4. Seems like plenty to do.

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    The bear and maiden fair could be a reference to Lady Margaery Tyrell and Joffery's wedding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    The bear and maiden fair could be a reference to Lady Margaery Tyrell and Joffery's wedding
    The song called "The Bear and Maiden Fair" was sung when Sansa is chilling with Margaery and Olenna and was also sung by Greatjon at the Red Wedding. Chances are it will be the former since the Red Wedding is rumored to be episode 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    The song called "The Bear and Maiden Fair" was sung when Sansa is chilling with Margaery and Olenna and was also sung by Greatjon at the Red Wedding. Chances are it will be the former since the Red Wedding is rumored to be episode 9.
    Who is the Knight that helps smuggles Sansa out of kings landing Could be a reference to that to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    The song called "The Bear and Maiden Fair" was sung when Sansa is chilling with Margaery and Olenna and was also sung by Greatjon at the Red Wedding. Chances are it will be the former since the Red Wedding is rumored to be episode 9.
    Seems like a push of events there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    Who is the Knight that helps smuggles Sansa out of kings landing Could be a reference to that to.
    That would be Dontos who escorted her to Littlefinger's boat. Then again, it could also refer to Brienne of Tarth, whose family crest is the Bear and she is called the Maid of Tarth lol So maybe all these things will happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    The song called "The Bear and Maiden Fair" was sung when Sansa is chilling with Margaery and Olenna and was also sung by Greatjon at the Red Wedding. Chances are it will be the former since the Red Wedding is rumored to be episode 9.
    Its seems that The Rains of Castamere was played at The Red wedding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    Its seems that The Rains of Castamere was played at The Red wedding
    A few different songs were played there. Both the one you mentioned and the one that is the title of episode 8. Rains of Castamere was the song that was used to signal the start of the slaughter. Greatjon sang The Bear and the Maiden earlier on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    Its seems that The Rains of Castamere was played at The Red wedding
    If it is the Red Wedding, they're pushing it forward. Heck, Arya got almost nothing to do in season 4 if it's the Red Wedding.

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    Just by the names of episodes you can guess major plot points. Arya is not a fave of mine and im looking forward to more of The Wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallahadd View Post
    wow... that's a nice list of episodes, it's fun going through and thinking what the episodes will be about

    I'm guessing:


    ep1: Arya heavy, the start of her adventures with The Hound.
    ep4: Death of Commander Mormont and the Night's Watch outparty rebellion.
    ep5: Boring episode with Jon diddling Ygritte and many repetitions of "You know nothing Jon Snow".
    Ep9: The Red Wedding! I think the title change is a good idea, anyone who knows the story knows what will happen, but it's not QUITE so obvious that the wedding is going to end horribly, if you don't already know.
    ep10: This word rings a bell, but I can't think why.. any input?
    Ep 3 may feature Jaime, Theon, and Sam, all of whom endure punishing walks... Jaime as a prisoner of Brienne, Theon as a prisoner of Ramsay, and Sam as he flees the White Walkers.

    Ep 6 will probably also include the fight between Berric and the Hound and possibly Berric being revived by Thoros' kiss of fire. Double meanings!

    Ep 7 is supposed include Brienne and Jaime fighting the bear in the pit, but the recent change of the title also hints that it may include Sansa conspiring with the Tyrell's while their jester sings that song.

    Episode 8 has already been confirmed as Sansa and Tyrion's surprise wedding.

    Mhysa is Ghiscari for "mother," it's what the slaves call Dany after she sacks Yunkai and frees them. So that's this season's finale.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstorm View Post
    If it is the Red Wedding, they're pushing it forward. Heck, Arya got almost nothing to do in season 4 if it's the Red Wedding.
    Fleeing with the Hound, fighting some Lannisters and recovering Needle, and they'll probably jump right into her sailing for Braavos, maybe even arriving by the end of the season. She's one of the few characters to be featured heavily in both books four and five, with quite a few chapters between the two, and her training with the Faceless Men could easily be elaborated on, so pushing that forward probably wouldn't be too difficult.


    I've decided to go ahead and speculate on some early storylines for the North this season. I don't want to speculate too far because things will vary a lot depending on the flow of the first few episodes...

    In a minor deviation from the books, Robb will personally capture Harrenhal while Tywin's forces are away, narrowly missing Arya. At roughly the same time, Ramsay Snow will reclaim Winterfell and take Theon prisoner, and ravens will be sent out. I'm not sure if Ramsay will be posing as Reek, but I'll assume so for now.

    Robb and Cat will receive word that Theon's been captured and that Bran and Rickon are dead, as well as word from Riverrun that Cat's father's health is ailing. Robb and Cat will depart with their party to Riverrun, leaving Roose Bolton in command of Harrenhal.

    "Ramsay" will take Theon to the Dreadfort, while "Reek" plays mindgames with him. At some point, perhaps Theon will attempt to escape with "Reek's" help, perhaps even killing "Ramsay," only to be betrayed and learn the truth of his identity. That would certainly be in line with Ramsay's style.

    Roose will eventually leave Harrenhal in the command of Vargo Hoat and the Brave Companions while he travels to the Twins.
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